Good?
Good.
What socialism is happening? Who is advocating workers controlling the means of production? All I see are social programs being touted.
Socialism is 1950’s conservatism now.
Who is advocating workers controlling the means of production?
That would be communism, not socialism. Lennonist communism is where the workers control the means of production in a collectivist but decentralized manner (Stalinist communism is where the state (Stalin) controls the means of production). Socialism is where the capitalists are allowed to maximize profit all they want (hell they keep most of that under the socialist model), but society guarantees a minimal quality of life (the social bit) by taxing the capitalists to ensure universal health-insurance and/or housing.
Basically, socialism is the logical conclusion of FDR’s New Deal.
Americans don’t understand that distinction.
Good. Elected representatives funded by their constituents and others in the working class mean there’s less of a risk they pull up the ladder behind them and fuck those who got them into power.
Doesn’t mean this won’t ever happen. That’s why I said risk.
Long term goals are of course to ban Citizen’s United, set a cap on money needed to campaign for an elected position, and pass Ranked Choice Voting (RCV).
Not so scary if you do five minutes of research.
We need a benevolent dictator for a few years while we wash the stains out of the social fabric.
perhaps a dictatorship of the proletariat…
If only I were king for a day…
Technically correct. Not sure why you are downvoted.
They had decades to figure out how to unite their base. Obama and Bernie’s popularity gave them the building blocks. They remained willfully ignorant because they like those corporate checks too much.
Works for me. Give us universal basic income and universal healthcare. Take money out of politics. Give me an international high speed rail system. And paid by taxes higher education. Shut down the snooty universities.
Maybe, just maybe, that will bring Republicans back to the center
I’d be okay with just democracy taking over the Democratic party
What if a foreign genocidal ethnostate takes over the Democratic Party?
Russia took over the GOP, not Democrats.
Democrats are very obviously in bed with Israel (not to say GOP isn’t as well).
Oh. If you actually read the article, it’s about nomenclature. Nothing of substance. What a waste.

The Democratic Party needs an anti-trump:
Someone who is the opposite of trump in every way…
Smart, wise, humble, charitable, brave, gregarious, kind, caring, socialist, democratic, and good.Essentially, someone who embodies all the virtues that the hypocrites of the Christian Right eschew.
Smart and wise folk generally do their best to stay out of formal politics. politics sucks.
Closest I can think of is Bernie Sanders, but he may have aged out of a presidential run.
Like Obama?
I’d love to go socialist at this point. Capitalism has only fucked me over and over and over.
I’m pretty wealthy and I want the USA to be way more socialist. I want medical for all, free daycare, food security for everyone, and a huge expansion of public education. Unfortunately about 50% of the population equates any socialism with Marxism and refuses to even hear how bad they’re getting screwed by their Corp sponsored overlords.
I’m literally explaining social democracies vs Marxism to grown adults on nextdoor constantly. These knuckle draggers have the strongest political opinions and the weakest base of knowledge, it’s infuriating. The 24 hour news cycle has turned our dumb neighbors into hateful mean little people.
Social democracy isn’t socialism. Which is why it has the same problems as capitalism.
They don’t equate socialism and marxism, they haven’t read Marx like most people and implies think anything left of Bill Clinton is Marxist because that’s what talking heads have told them.
Exactly what I was trying to say.
Nice of you to give socialism its turn.










