Fifield, 41, is the second woman to allege this week that Platner engaged in nonconsensual sexual conduct. Jenny Racicot, 41, who said she previously dated Platner, told The Post and other outlets on Monday that he sexually assaulted her in late 2021, leading a growing number of allies to drop their endorsements and call on him to withdraw from the race for a Maine seat in the U.S. Senate. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont), his most influential and prominent supporter, said he spoke with Platner on Tuesday and urged him to withdraw from his campaign to unseat Susan Collins, the incumbent Republican.

Platner, 41, a Marine Corps veteran and oyster farmer, also denied Racicot’s allegation but said on Monday that he was “mindful of the political reality” that the reporting will “inflict” on his campaign and was “taking the time to reflect on the best path forward.”

Fifield initially told The Post about the alleged condom removal during a June 20 interview that was off the record. She said she decided to speak publicly about it Tuesday in part because, she said, she wanted to show that Racicot was not alone in experiencing issues with Platner involving sexual consent.

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    I don’t wanna be that guy, but purposefully removing a condom during sex without consent is rape.

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      We’ve got weirdos pretending that this waters down the term rape in this thread, lovely.

      When you are having sex with someone, presumably you are trusting them? You are trusting them to be safe, to not push boundaries, to do only things you consent to do.

      When someone stealths you, they are saying that they don’t give a fuck about you. That trust was misplaced. They are willing to do something to you that you explicitly did not want. Are they going to stop there? (The same type also often pushes for anal/“accidentally” attempts penetration there.)

      It’s terrifying and traumatic. Your head races - are you current on your birth control? How likely do you think it is that this guy has some disease? And you get a physical reminder that your consent didn’t matter, the sensation and needing to clean up after if they finished.

      It’s also so goddamned common. It’s trivialized.

      If you slip the condom off without someone’s consent, you are a rapist. Rape fucks victims up whether it’s a stranger in the bushes or a FWB stealthing you.

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      The other allegation is also rape since he didn’t stop when she asked him to multiple times

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        I thought about what you said for a little while. After thinking hard, I believe I found the correct term for this kind of behavior. The term I came up with is “rape”. What do you think?

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        “I consent to protected sex” is not equivalent to “I consent to unprotected sex.”

        Rape means here is no valid consent to the sexual act itself (or consent is obtained through force, coercion, incapacity, etc.).

        The sexual act in question is unprotected sex. The man had no valid consent to the sexual act itself. Consent was not obtained. The woman’s bodily autonomy was violated.

        He knew this when he tried to take it off. Otherwise he could have consentfully never used it.

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            This is like when a Muslim family is attacked and the comments are all debating if racism is the correct term since Muslim isn’t a race.

            It’s just muddying the waters, destructing from the crime and the victims, and providing cover for the wrongdoers.

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        we’re not here to censore violence and minimize what happened to an actual victim of violence because your sensitive ears cant hear it. you and your delicate ears are not the victim here. the rape victim is. stop making their trajedy about your ears.

        be a better person than this.

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            Then don’t be. Rape is too overloaded. Find a more descriptive term.

            We don’t need to load any BS into your words, there’s plenty on display.

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              So, since you only see what you want to, let me spell it out. They already have various categories of rape. Like aggravated rape and such. These are like rape+. I am saying a more descriptive term like that should be used to highlight the heinousness of the crime. But you refuse to see that. You just want to be righteous so bad you will make up something to be righteous about.

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        Removing a condom during sex without consent, known as “stealthing,” is classified as a form of sexual assault in several countries, including Britain, Canada and parts of Australia. In the United States, Maine, California and Washington state have laws that address the nonconsensual removal of condoms during sex.

        There is another term for it, however, it still fits the bill as rape.

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        Putting your dick in someone without their consent is rape. She did not consent to him taking the condom off. This isn’t a grey area.

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        I don’t wanna be that guy, but it is rape. If you think that it isn’t, it’s on you to find the descriptive term, not me.

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          So the guy is also accused of not stopping when she said stop. That is also rape. Do you not see a problem with calling them both rape? Which sounds worse, 2 counts of rape. Or 1 count of rape and one count of <something more descriptive>. To me the second one conveys that he has a pattern of disregard for women beyond just one situation. I also think the condom thing shows intentional deception, where as he could claim he was too far into it to stop when she told him to. Combined as seperate things, they are more incriminating.

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            So the guy is also accused of not stopping when she said stop. That is also rape. Do you not see a problem with calling them both rape?

            …No???

            They ARE both rape.

            Just because one rape is different from another rape doesn’t mean they’re not both rape, what the actual fuck are you talking about.

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            where as he could claim he was too far into it to stop when she told him to.

            This made my skin crawl.

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              Yeah, but we know some judges and jury’s would accept this excuse. So using a more descriptive term would better represent the crime to those who might otherwise consider it less serious than it should be.

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      What if it slips off because your dick is too small?

      Maybe he’s got a thin penis like the detective in Deuce Bigalo Male Gigalo