• 0x0@lemmy.zip
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        14 days ago

        Try harder, thoughts and prayers won’t cut it, you’re way past the no-return point.

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          13 days ago

          We’ve been making it better for the last 250 years. There have been setbacks and regressions, but the overall arch has been progress. If we make it through this backslide we can still continue improving.

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        Many of us are frankly better. Its par for the course these days for the entire nation to be judged by the behavior of its worst, and if challenged, people will say if we don’t like it we should be in the streets protesting violently. But it’s a lot of armchair quarterbacking IMO and I try not to let it bother me. We’re donating and volunteering to support a blue wave in the midterms. If this doesn’t impress Europeans on Lemmy I have no shits to give.

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      If any society from more than 60 years ago doesn’t seem barbaric, it means society hasn’t progressed and shit is fucked up.

      Even oldschool public executions is tame compared to this though, because it’ll be live streamed globally and recorded.

      When you look at shit happening today and it’s 1,000 times worse than a century ago, it’s fucking noteworthy.

      Stop acting like this shit isn’t a huge deal and it’s always been like this.

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        The Vietnam war was less than 60 years ago. Plus all of the wars in the middle east, our torture black sites, overthrowing democracies for profit, etc.

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          …

          You think it’s a clock and is only real after 60 years?

          Progress is a constant thing. It’s pushing a cart up hill. If youre not further up the hill every step, it’s not progress.

          60 years, 60 months, 60 days, 60 minutes…

          The length of time doesn’t matter, just that progress happens.

          Every well adjusted person should have a shit ton of regrets, because they keep progressing as a human and find prior behavior unacceptable. That’s the same for a nation.

          Do you legitimately not understand that?

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            What is the progress tho? US has been genociding an entire people for the past 3 years. It is as fucked in the head as it ever was.

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              What is the progress tho?

              There hasn’t been any…

              From the early 90s to 2025 the neoliberals controlled the DNC. They kept moving right, so Republicans did the same to differentiate.

              We finally have a non biased DNC again (Obama just ignored it, or wed have gotten in in 2009 and shit never would have gotten this bad)

              That means a neoliberal won’t win the next presidential primary, because they could never win a fair primary. It took Hillary hiding behind Bill’s charisma to get them the DNC in the first place.

              But all of that was orchestrated by the wealthy to stop progress. They just plan on generational timelines.

              US has been genociding an entire people for the past 3 years.

              Gaza? The government has been enabling it, but acting like it’s already America commiting a genocide, just means when/if our government crosses that line, people are numb to it.

              That’s a widely used propaganda technique, and trump himself does it all the time. Everytime he says “we may do that” is so some people get outraged early, and that prevents people from getting outraged at the same time.

              Like, I fully understand your intent and that you think you’re helping, but you’re only helping the oligarchs when you blur lines like this.

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          Not to mention thats everything thats public information. You go behind the scenes and you’re begging to lose all hope and meaning.

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        I guarantee there will be all sorts of meme videos about it. Lots of AI videos, too.

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      I think that there’s a difference between being barbaric while trying to appear civilized and being barbaric and proud of it. Both are bad, the latter is worse.

      If you can’t see the difference, from an ethical standpoint, between livestreaming an execution and keeping it away from the eyes of the general population, you’re a bit of a sociopath.