Seems to me that maintenance would be significant.
They’re utterly impracticable and inefficient. Things cool very slowly in the vacuum of space.
AI Derangement Syndrome
They want to put them where normal people cannot damage them.
It’s so expensive. Putting data centers in bunkers or caves is more reasonable. (There actually are data centers like this).
Orbital politicians, and billionaires are a hella cool idea though
And yet the IPO of SpaceX was justified woth the presumed future success of its space-based data center program.
Wait is that really a thing
Yes. He unironically promised to build data centers in space. So basically, his company’s stock went up, because he falsely advertised something that is practically impossible to achieve at this time.
It’s comical how finance is the most ‘vibes’ based of any discipline, yet they try so hard to LARP as hard math/science experts. Much projection for such massive insecurity, it seems.
Hasn’t he said full whee drive automatically driving your car would be availbe a decade ago and it’s still not here
The one I heard was a fleet of Tesla self-driving taxis across the US by 2025.
Instead we have news reports of Teslas on autopilot killing people while the driver is distracted.
Yes. That’s not even the most flagrant one
Reagan approves
For the cost of one orbital data centre you could probably build 10 terrestrial data centres, bribe literally everyone involved in the contrustion to pretend that they built it in space, buy an island, fake your death, and spend the rest of your life off grid.
God almighty
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Are we talking about a vacuum of copper or a vacuum of feathers
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Black body radiation is a real, but it’s an extremely inefficient way to get rid of excess heat. So you’d need huge radiators to get enough surface area.
Add to this the fact that terrestrial data centers operate at a loss, and there’s no way to run a space based one profitably.
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No you’re just confident despite your ignorance. Turning waste heat into electromagnetic radiation is not easy or efficient - 100 to 350W per square meter in current space craft. The sheer scale of radiators necessary in a orbital data centre would dwarf the footprint of the servers themselves.
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Perhaps you can educate us instead of being mad at the world?
Thanks but I’d like to not read Billy Madison’s lecture on thermal dynamics based on magic and fairy dust.
Man, you can’t be this pedantic and this incorrect, all at the same time.
The “there is no air in space therefore datacenters in space are a bad idea” crew is not going away. Are you even human?
We got Musk fanboys on Lemmy before GTA 6.
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Check how many square meters of copper radiators per human you need on ISS and then do the math kwh for a datacenter and you will get more tonnes of material than any material on the hole planet earth and now you understand why it’s your idea that’s removed from any intelligent discourse.
Or why would I bother educating you. Go and invest in companies building data centers in space, vote for them, idc
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When i did i say anything of that? Are you ok buddy?
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I don’t know if you realize this but losing heat by radiating it away is incredibly slow and inefficient.
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It does matter because it means it’s not a solution.
Never said it was. But if you want a solution NASA figured it out almost 3 quarters of a century ago. If the cooling solution is the thread that makes or breaks the concept sure you could justify being this irrational I guess or you could find the next better reason to be against data centers in space. Upto you.
You just need something like ~256,000 m² or like 60% the size of vatican city of radiators to dissipate 1mw power at 300k, I calculated it https://crazypeople.online/post/20952535/9448375
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Please reconsider your use of the “R” word. It is not harmless. People try to say “it just means stupid” but we all know what people that word refers to. They also know this word, and know it’s used in reference to them.
They don’t deserve it. My wife, for example, used to teach Shakespeare in theatrical classes in the adult day school she worked at. Her student absolutely were capable of learning that and understanding it fully.
Yeah, language evolves over time. But just as I hope you wouldn’t call a Black person “colored” because that term is currently not appreciated (even though it was the preferred in decades past), I hope you would consider removing the “R” word from your vocabulary as well.
They’re arguing in favor of AI. They already don’t care about other people, unfortunately.
Could you imagine being in orbit during an AI datacenter kessler collapse, and just getting smoked by an rtx 5070 travelling at mach fuck?
No credit for partial answers, maggot. This is an RTX 5070 Ti with 16G of GDDR7. It was shot out of a grok datacenter in heliosynchronous orbit at 1.3% the speed of light. You know what that means? That means Kevin O’Leary is the most dangerous son of a bitch in space.
There’d be nothing less than gold plated B300s in a space datacenter. If they’re spending billions flying it up there, they’re not going to be putting mid-range consumer GPUs in there. The gold plating probably doesn’t even do anything for radiation shielding, the AI just told them to add it to help prop up the AI bubble.
Grain of sand…
Sadly the latency involved in transmitting and receiving from orbit makes many terrestrial applications fail… The speed of light is a fixed constant.
When gaming, we can always see the idiots running on starlink…the lag is visible and makes them sitting ducks… ;-)
LOL LOL you CANNOT cool something like that in space. The entire concept is flawed.
You can, they just have to be smaller rather than a massive single orbital data centrer like this proposal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlQYU3m1e80
Still not a great idea because of the economics, but the same can be said for the data center build out on earth too, so why would they let that stop them?
For scale. roughly a two server datacenter needs to have solar and radiator about as big as the ISS.
Which is possible, but insane. However insane plain old datacenter is, just tons more insane.
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You could put em on the moon with a heatpump into the ground.
The cost per pound to get them there is insane.
They are seriously old in 2 years.
They could put them in deserts here with closed loop cooling.
or… hear me out… Maybe we DON’T NEED THAT MUCH AI…
You could put em on the moon with a heatpump into the ground.
The interior of the moon is not super cold. You could still run a heat pump, but I don’t know what the conductivity is like.
Eliminating heat is like one of the hardest space problems 🦙
It’s literally just taking the piss out of idiotic investors. Data Centers, AI, space, new frontier, new markets. It checks all the boxes to get idiots excited to dump money into your tech company so people keep talking about it because talking about it is what gets results. Hopefully nobody is dumb enough to actually try it, it’s an absolute scam.
I mean, space construction companies are happy to try it.
If Bezos keeps giving them money, who are they to say no? It may not even all be a waste in the long run, as it could be a “testing ground” for future scientific missions.
I see it as a win-win.
Either Elom and his fellow dipshits waste a ton of cash chasing literal pie in the sky,
Or
A viable commercial presence in space is validated and terrestrial power needs eased.
/S
Can you all not even tell this or sarcasm?
Nah, you’re not jaded enough yet, it’ll be used to facilitate a wealth transfer. Huge wealth management firms will tie up venture capital in financing SpaceX and BO and smaller space construction firms in a boondoggle and when it fails to materialize a profit they will pocket the proceeds and the losses will be covered by taxes and retirement accounts.
They do this again and again. It’s the kleptocracy playbook, they’re just getting bigger and bolder and more in your face with it.
My bad. Edited.
Looool gotcha, assume half the people on Lemmy reading your comment are half asleep, either just waking up or going to bed.
