Lawyers for the man accused of killing conservative activist Charlie Kirk are expected to keep questioning the reliability of DNA testing used to link the defendant to the suspected murder weapon when a weeklong hearing resumes Wednesday.
A member of Tyler Robinson’s defense team interrogated a DNA analyst from the FBI on Tuesday about the techniques she used to connect Robinson to a towel wrapped around a rifle found at Utah Valley University, where Kirk was shot in September while speaking to a large crowd.
Defense lawyer Michael Burt cast doubt on the analyst’s conclusions — a theme likely to recur during the five-day preliminary hearing.
“She can’t match Mr. Robinson to the questioned samples,” Burt argued.
Deputy Utah County Attorney Ryan McBride countered that the reliability of the DNA testing could be examined if the case goes to trial. He suggested the preliminary hearing — where prosecutors have a lower burden of proof compared with a trial — was not the time to take up the matter.
“The point is there are explanations that are susceptible to different interpretations and arguments,” McBride said. “Ultimately, we’re going to have an expert hearing where all the literature is going to be before the court and the court is going to determine if it meets the threshold of reliability for admission to trial.”
Prosecutors intend to seek the death penalty. State District Judge Tony Graf will decide at the conclusion of this week’s hearing if they have enough evidence to bring Robinson to trial on an aggravated murder charge.
Robinson has not yet entered a plea and his attorneys have not commented on his guilt or innocence. They have, however, sought to get the death penalty taken off the table, so far unsuccessfully.
Prosecutors must show they have enough evidence for a trial
FBI analyst Amanda Bakker said after Robinson’s roommate, Lance Twiggs, provided a DNA sample for comparison, she was able to rerun her tests and attribute all of the DNA to two people.
Investigators found the towel and suspected murder weapon — a bolt-action rifle with one spent round — in a wooded area near where Kirk was shot.
This has never made sense to me:
The picture they showed off of the ‘rifle recovered in the woods’ is… fully assembled, and in a cardboard box.
But they also reported that the weapon was wrapped up in a towel or cloth or something.
But but … the government story is that Robinson had a half dissambled rifle partially in his backpack, partially in his pant leg… he walks it to the roof with an odd walking cadence, assembles it, fires it, disassembles it, jumps off the roof, flees the scene…
Why the fuck would you then reassemble the weapon?
Where did this cardboard box come from?
And yes, the bullet this weapon fires cannot be the bullet that made the injuries Kirk sustained.
The shooting position that Robinson was supposedly at? That weapon? That range?
Its a 30-06. A straight on shot from the front, from that range, to Kirk’s lower neck/upper shoulder area, would have blown a chunk of flesh roughly the size of an orange out of Kirk. The bullet would have kept travelling through Kirk, and potentially injured people standing behind him, it would have made an impact mark on the building/ground behind him. There would have been blood and viscera from Kirk thrown behind him, creating a splatter pattern.
Instead, we get Kirk having the neck geyser in the front, no visible exit wound or blood on the back of his neck.
Instead, we get a statement from a doctor saying that his shoulder/clavicle bones caught the bullet, and that that is a miracle and Kirk has superhuman bone density, that this superhuman bone density saved other people from the scenario I described above.
https://nypost.com/2025/09/21/us-news/charlie-kirk-surgeon-reveals-miracle-factor-that-likely-prevented-more-from-being-hurt/
https://thedailydots.substack.com/p/the-bullet-that-stopped-medical-science
This is… how do you say … horseshit.
… Kirk does not / did not have superhuman bone density… that bullet / fragments recovered inside of in him is not a 30-06, or even fragments of a 30-06.
Now I don’t know who the fuck actually did shoot Kirk, but it wasn’t Robinson, even if he had been there, with that 30-06 firearm, at that time, from that shooting position.
Robinson is almost certainly fucked in that he does seem to have been there, with the intention to take the shot, with a 30-06. But he cannot have been the one that pulled the trigger that fired the bullet that ended Kirk.
I can say though, that a 5.56 fired from Kirk’s right, above him, that entered into his head/neck roughly under his right ear, that then wormed its way through/around the bulk of his neck vertebrae, that as it is slowing down, severs the left carotid internally, that then comes to a stop in his left shoulder/clavicle bones…
Well that does match with everything about the scene and the videos/photos of Kirk’s death.
Regarding the type of round and placement of the shot, some guntubers were saying that he normally wore a titanium plate type body armor that has an angle at the top to fit the chest area. Their speculation was that the angle of the plate is what deflected the shot up into his neck.
I mean I’ve not… seen or watched every guntuber, but uh, no, that theory is wrong.
You could see his nipples through his shirt.
He was not wearing plate armor.
If he was wearing magic flexi titanium armor under that shirt… well then the bullet would have had some kind of destructive effect on the shirt, where it would have bounced/richochet’d from.
It did not.
If he was wearing armor, and took a round to the upper chest, that ricocheted into his neck… he would have bruising at that part of his chest, potentially fractured ribs. Actually, definitely fractured ribs, for a 30-06.
By all information I’ve been able to find, nope, none of that was ever indicated either.
Also, if a 30-06 hit him in the chest, with him seated, and that plate fully bounced the round (into his neck, or anywhere else)?
He’d have been noticably kicked backward.
At 150 yards, a 30-06 will be travelling ~2400 ft/s.
A 150 - 180 grain round… ~1900 to ~2300 foot-pounds of force.
For a (perfectly armored) person standing upright, on concrete (friction coefficient of 0.5) that would kick you backward something like several inches to a foot.
It would be roughly comparable to taking a well executed mma/karate front kick, to the chest.
For a (perfectly armored) person sitting down, in a 4 legged chair? Who then immediately goes limp?
He’d likely have been hit with enough force that him and the chair would topple over backward or to the side… not the in place tensing and then slumping that was seen.
You could posit ceramic plates, that dissipate some of the energy by breaking, but then we just circle back to ‘you would have been very obviously able to see he was wearing that, and not able to see his nipples’.
I saw a headline somewhere about candance rambling about an exploding microphone, is that real and does that make any sense?
In short, no, Candace is… mostly a crazy person who interprets dreams and the first thing that pops into her head as… God talking to her, or ‘showing’ her things.
So, the microphone thing is confusing, but thats mostly because … its small, and most video that captured it moving wasn’t high resolution.
Kirk was not shot by his own microphone. If he had been, there’d be burn marks and/or gunpowder or explosive residue on his shirt, where the lapel mic was, from it exploding/firing.
No such burn marks or residue exists, in any video or picture or report I’ve seen or read.
Also… yeah, it was daylight, and yeah, that ‘theory’ is that it could have been basically a very small caliber… but… you probably still would have been able to see a small, slight flash, from either a small bomb going off on his chest, or a tiny ‘gun’ firing… he was in relative shade, compared to most other people/things in most of the videos/pictures I’ve seen.
And nothing like that is even hinted at, in anything I’ve seen.
And no, Kirk was not wearing body armor. He was wearing a fairly light fabric, white Tshirt. You could see him nipping through it, in some pictures/video from the day. You cannot see nipple impressions through kevlar or plate armor.
He was though, actually wearing a lapel microphone, likely one that attaches to his shirt via a magnetic clip… the exterior lapel mic has another basically just magnet it snaps to, that goes on the inside of your shirt.
Here is a comparison shot, Kirk’s last day on the left, same or similar lapel mic on another day, another public speaking event:
Why did the mic go flying, when he got shot?
Well, here’s my ‘theory’:
Because he got shot, and that shot basically instantly severed his spinal cord. He was likely 90% brain dead before the blood geyser even erupted.
His entire body thus … basically had something comparable to a seizure, a significant, global convulsion…
His eyes go wide, he ‘tenses up’, into a sort of stereotypical ‘frightened’ or ‘startled’ pose…
… and then neuroelectric flatline, slumping, everything relaxes, every muscle group slowly lets go.
That sudden jerking or convulsion motion, resulting from his spinal cord being severed, is what I think caused the mic to move so abruptly.
Same as if you had been wearing a mic like that, affixed by an opposed, fairly weak magnet… and then suddenly spasmed with your entire body, with significant muscular force… or, maybe like going from a lazy standing stance to instantly switching to a perfect military ready ‘Attention!’ pose, something like that.
Why does the other side of his shirt, his left side, seem to ‘pinch’ and expand?
Well, If the lapel mic had a wire internally, inside his shirt, going to a spot at his waist, his belt line, where you could plug it into a walky-talky type device, so that it could then be patched into the PA system, in the event the primary microphone died…
If that wire was on the inside of his shirt, and that wire was taped to other parts of the inside of shirt, or maybe just to his body… the body tenses, the label mic gets disconnected from its internal base, thats like a system of ropes and hooks and pulleys where you just cut the load off of one part of it, and now the system rebalances, with the ‘rope’ snapping around a bit.
The wire, analagously the ‘rope’, whips around in such a way that we get a few frames where the cumulative effect of all the physics at play here, causes the ‘pinching’ expansion of the shirt, momentarily.