Hi all, a couple of years back I moved to Proton on a 2 year plan. Then the CEO started spouting Trump stuff. I cancelled at the time but the subscription is only now up for renewal.

I have moved everything across to Tuta recently, but I don’t like it, so I’m looking for further suggestions.

Why didn’t Tuta work for me?

  • No function to auto-forward emails to another email address.
  • No bridge or IMAP so I can’t connect to Paperless
  • Mobile app is janky - when I swipe to archive, it sort of sits there for a while as it talks to the server. And just generally it feels slow like it’s waiting for the server for every action instead of backgrounding the requests.
  • Web app is weird. It doesn’t even have an archive button, I have to use “Move -> Archive” making it slow to go through my inbox.
  • Importing emails is only available on their most expensive plan. Weird to not want people to move to your platform? (it also couldn’t handle 15000 emails, I had to load them 1000 at a time)

Things I want:

  • Must support custom domain
  • Must support catchall
  • Must support forwarding an email to another email address based on the “to” address
  • Must not be run by dicks (e.g. Trump supporting CEO or Proton, union busting like Fastmail, and no big tech) - as close as possible at least
  • Should have some method to connect to my self-hosted Paperless NGX (e.g. Proton’s bridge, or just IMAP)
  • Should have emails encrypted from provider if possible - not sure if anyone other than Proton or Tuta do this.
  • Should support GPG
  • Should allow importing email history from previous provider
  • Should have a nice web/mobile app or allow IMAP. Bonus points if I don’t have to use the Play store.

Honestly I’d put up with the janky app if Tuta had the functions I want, I mostly just want my money going to some provider that aren’t dicks, but having the provider not be able to read my emails would be a bonus.

Anyone got suggestions for me?

  • needanke@feddit.orgEnglish
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    13 hours ago

    I use mailbox.org and this is my experience with your points:

    • Must support custom domain

    It generally does, the number of adresses ist still limeted though (exact number depends on the plan, standard plan is something like 50)

    • Must support catchall

    It does, counts as one address only

    • Must support forwarding an email to another email address based on the “to” address

    You can add rules based on many factors, including to address (partial or full matching). The interface for those is a bit clunky but once you got them set up they work reliably. I use them to sort mails into fders based on to-addresses.

    • Must not be run by dicks (e.g. Trump supporting CEO or Proton, union busting like Fastmail, and no big tech) - as close as possible at least

    I do not know anything about that but have also not actively loomed into it. they are run by a medium-sized German company called Heinelin.

    • Should have some method to connect to my self-hosted Paperless NGX (e.g. Proton’s bridge, or just IMAP)

    You get IMAP.

    • Should have emails encrypted from provider if possible - not sure if anyone other than Proton or Tuta do this.

    You can set upload a public key to be used to encrypt your entire mailbox and incoming mail on arrival if you want (Mailbox Guard)

    • Should support GPG

    Server-side and webmailer only do pgp, but it’s e-Mail, so just use gpg in your e-Mail program?

    • Should allow importing email history from previous provider

    They allow for that using a partner company, but I have never tried that and can not tell you how well it works.

    • Should have a nice web/mobile app or allow IMAP. Bonus points if I don’t have to use the Play store.

    Imap, no official app for mail

    • Dave@lemmy.nzOPEnglish
      1·
      3 hours ago

      Thanks for the detailed response!

      You can add rules based on many factors, including to address (partial or full matching). The interface for those is a bit clunky but once you got them set up they work reliably. I use them to sort mails into fders based on to-addresses.

      Tuta support rules to folders but not to forward to another email address, which is where if fell down. You seem to only mention sorting to folders but given how you seem to imply an advanced interface I’m hoping that means it’s supported.

      Server-side and webmailer only do pgp, but it’s e-Mail, so just use gpg in your e-Mail program?

      Yeah GPG in email program is fine, so long as you can use an email program (e.g. Proton/Tuta you can’t use IMAP you have to use their app because of custom encryption implementation - though Proton does have a bridge if you want to use IMAP on desktop).

      Lots of votes for Mailbox.org in the responses (though some votes of no confidence). Still on the list of possibles though, thanks for the info 🙂