He looks like a kid who’s been told “no” for the first time in their lives. I am appalled and disguested that he was toured around like he was some massive hero when this was the ‘manly’ reaction he gave for his ‘heroic’ actions
I think it’s the boats that will get him. I think they ended up killing several hundred at random. Iran was a war-not-a-war so that may give him some cover as a failure.
I hope you’ve been (and are) able to deal with that trauma in a healthy way.
Come to think of it, I’m not sure I wish that on anyone, no matter who they are.
He’s possibly barely suffered a consequence in his entire life, so probably even the thought of there being any consequences is terrifying (enough) to him.
Like I said, I get it. If you want to say he should be executed or sent to prison for life, I won’t argue with you. But the Geneva conventions don’t have a “we need to send a message” clause.
Agreed, punishment should fit the crime. We have lately been pardoning people and sending a message that you can get away with things if you know the right people or have celebrity privilege, though. So time to get back to people not getting away with things.
Yeah I honestly don’t think I’d be able to see that if I weren’t pacifist. I do understand their anger but I do wish people could differentiate between what’s based off their anger and what should actually be done once the anger is filtered out and processed by our analytical side.
Normally I’d agree. But conservative traitors who commit atrocities in public view while celebrating and bragging are my exception.
These cockroaches need to suffer the same torture they have inflicted upon their victims. If they survive CECOT for a year, then we put them in a fishing boat and take bets on how far they get before exploding.
It’s definitely conflicting. He’s committed so many atrocities and it really makes emotions flare up. I understand where you are coming from but I just don’t want to see humanity further fleeting into barbarism by doing eye for an eye. Plus, death frees him from the shame of having to live with who he is and what he’s done.
You are a kind soul. I like where you’re coming from. Conservatives are biologically unable to experience shame, though, so you’ll need to come up with a more creative punishment.
Maybe if Hegseth holds the chair. Tell him it’s the manly thing to do. And instruct the squad to aim for the convictim’s head. If he’s going to make soldiers commit cold-blooded murder he might as well have the best view.
Honestly, I disagree. A stance I hold is that voters should have to see the horrors of war. You shouldn’t be allowed to elect someone who may send people off to die brutally without knowing what that looks like. By this, I don’t mean watching Band of Brothers or something. I mean actual footage of people being injured or dying in modern combat. You’re choosing that for other people, so you should have to know what it actually is.
9 year old me (casually scrolling on 4chan) would agree. I still remember accidentally stumbling across my first beheading video. The early (largely unmoderated) internet was like the Wild West.
I seriously question the idea that death is inherently traumatic. History is littered with public-executions, ceremonial killings and death for entertainment. People are eager to pay for and play GTA 6: a murder- and crime-simulator. People love violence. People are unfazed by death when the victims belong to an out-group–those that are deemed not to be people.
“Oh that’s just an actor. The character died, not the actor.”
Desensitization is a type of trauma. Many people are, in fact, traumatized by seeing death.
I have seen people die and I have seen dead bodies and it’s a weight on me for over twenty years. It compounds instead of getting better.
I’ve seen people have nightmares after scrolling through Facebook and seeing Charlie Kirk die. People that were somewhat okay with him being dead but still traumatized by seeing it.
No one should see it without consent. I mean really informed consent not just “sure, I’ll watch this.” They have to know all the risks. Even then, I’d still prefer they didn’t.
I don’t like your argument about earlier public executions. I’m pretty sure none of them were okay.
I personally disagree with normalization of such violence. It makes people tolerate it to the point they don’t even register it as wrong. Hence why repubs wanted to publicly execute people.
I think it was an attempt to normalise the killing of political opponents. Such violence is already normal and legitimised in America, the land of school-shootings and capital punishment.
Gonna have to disagree with that one. I’d imagine a public execution where you have people shouting for your death, as your crimes are read out loud for everyone to hear, would, not only, be humiliating, but put the real fear of God in you as you finally realize your actions have caught up with you.
I would see him being handed over to the parents in Iran as fair. Then whatever happens to him is their rightful choice and it’s not the state making the decision
Any standard below imprisonment is unacceptable
The guy is responsible for bombing a school and killing 150 young girls. We execute people for less in the US.
not if the victims are brown…
Still hope this shitheels catches a bullet.
He looks like a kid who’s been told “no” for the first time in their lives. I am appalled and disguested that he was toured around like he was some massive hero when this was the ‘manly’ reaction he gave for his ‘heroic’ actions
he gives piggy boy fascist
There wasn’t a single brown victim. Get your disinformation performative bullshit out of here.
I think it’s the boats that will get him. I think they ended up killing several hundred at random. Iran was a war-not-a-war so that may give him some cover as a failure.
I’m not so sure… is the American public even aware of the boat strikes?
2/3rds of the senate is a big hill to climb, especially when many of the R’s that survived are from far right states.
The boats are hardly any less horrific, and I have no doubt there were children on more than 1.
Also he denied vets treatment or help since the Iran war is not a war.
I’ll pass on capital punishment.
He should be “executed” on live TV, but the guns just “shoot” out a flag that’s says “prison for life”.
He needs to think he’s actually being executed though: he’s fine with it.
It would definitely scar him a lot. I’ve had a gun held to my head before and it really fucks you up for sure.
I hope you’ve been (and are) able to deal with that trauma in a healthy way.
Come to think of it, I’m not sure I wish that on anyone, no matter who they are.
He’s possibly barely suffered a consequence in his entire life, so probably even the thought of there being any consequences is terrifying (enough) to him.
I get where you’re coming from, but war crimes aren’t cool.
Yeah, another reply/comment made me change my mind.
Yeah, this is one of those times where the punishment is more to tell others “this is what happens when you do this BS. So don’t do this.”
Like I said, I get it. If you want to say he should be executed or sent to prison for life, I won’t argue with you. But the Geneva conventions don’t have a “we need to send a message” clause.
Agreed, punishment should fit the crime. We have lately been pardoning people and sending a message that you can get away with things if you know the right people or have celebrity privilege, though. So time to get back to people not getting away with things.
He didn’t…
That’s on him, not me
100% a distinction that seems lost on a lot of people.
Yeah I honestly don’t think I’d be able to see that if I weren’t pacifist. I do understand their anger but I do wish people could differentiate between what’s based off their anger and what should actually be done once the anger is filtered out and processed by our analytical side.
There’s also that a lot of people conflate justice with revenge.
Distance oneself from wanting vengeance and then discussed what consequences justice requires.
Normally I’d agree. But conservative traitors who commit atrocities in public view while celebrating and bragging are my exception.
These cockroaches need to suffer the same torture they have inflicted upon their victims. If they survive CECOT for a year, then we put them in a fishing boat and take bets on how far they get before exploding.
It’s definitely conflicting. He’s committed so many atrocities and it really makes emotions flare up. I understand where you are coming from but I just don’t want to see humanity further fleeting into barbarism by doing eye for an eye. Plus, death frees him from the shame of having to live with who he is and what he’s done.
I want vengeance, but if the system actually moves forward with actual justice and real convictions and prison time, I’ll be more than satisfied.
You are a kind soul. I like where you’re coming from. Conservatives are biologically unable to experience shame, though, so you’ll need to come up with a more creative punishment.
But only if they’re poor.
Televised execution?
Jk, I never want that.
We kinda got that last night at the polls.
BUUURRRN!
Firing squad against a dude in a wheel chair
Maybe if Hegseth holds the chair. Tell him it’s the manly thing to do. And instruct the squad to aim for the convictim’s head. If he’s going to make soldiers commit cold-blooded murder he might as well have the best view.
Public execution of politicians and government officials… I’m kinda leaning toward maybe
Gonna be a hot take, bit I’m all for it. Some people deserve that kind of humiliation.
I’d counter that almost no one deserves the trauma of watching someone being killed.
Honestly, I disagree. A stance I hold is that voters should have to see the horrors of war. You shouldn’t be allowed to elect someone who may send people off to die brutally without knowing what that looks like. By this, I don’t mean watching Band of Brothers or something. I mean actual footage of people being injured or dying in modern combat. You’re choosing that for other people, so you should have to know what it actually is.
9 year old me (casually scrolling on 4chan) would agree. I still remember accidentally stumbling across my first beheading video. The early (largely unmoderated) internet was like the Wild West.
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure.
What if it could be death by tickling?
Still against the state choosing who lives and dies. Definitely don’t think people should be watching.
You are obsolete!
(Agreeing with you and reference to the Twilight Zone The Obsolete Man https://youtu.be/No04AeiTKAw)
Death by snu snu?
I seriously question the idea that death is inherently traumatic. History is littered with public-executions, ceremonial killings and death for entertainment. People are eager to pay for and play GTA 6: a murder- and crime-simulator. People love violence. People are unfazed by death when the victims belong to an out-group–those that are deemed not to be people.
“Oh that’s just an actor. The character died, not the actor.”
“They’re not real; it’s a video-game.”
“They’re jews.”
“He was a pedophile.”
“She’s a nazi.”
“He’s a murderer; it’s comeuppance.”
Desensitization is a type of trauma. Many people are, in fact, traumatized by seeing death.
I have seen people die and I have seen dead bodies and it’s a weight on me for over twenty years. It compounds instead of getting better.
I’ve seen people have nightmares after scrolling through Facebook and seeing Charlie Kirk die. People that were somewhat okay with him being dead but still traumatized by seeing it.
No one should see it without consent. I mean really informed consent not just “sure, I’ll watch this.” They have to know all the risks. Even then, I’d still prefer they didn’t.
I don’t like your argument about earlier public executions. I’m pretty sure none of them were okay.
I personally disagree with normalization of such violence. It makes people tolerate it to the point they don’t even register it as wrong. Hence why repubs wanted to publicly execute people.
Yeah I’m with you on that. I don’t like the idea of the public becoming desensitized to shit like that.
It’s fine to disagree with it. But, that won’t change my mind that there are some people who, I believe, deserve it.
I agree. But, slight adjustment. Conservatives are not “people”.
I think it was an attempt to normalise the killing of political opponents. Such violence is already normal and legitimised in America, the land of school-shootings and capital punishment.
Such murder needs to remain behind closed doors as to be polite in American society. Please enjoy the following entertainment-products:
Being executed isn’t humiliating. You wanna humiliate them put them in a public pillory and sell tomatoes and live stream it 24x7.
Gonna have to disagree with that one. I’d imagine a public execution where you have people shouting for your death, as your crimes are read out loud for everyone to hear, would, not only, be humiliating, but put the real fear of God in you as you finally realize your actions have caught up with you.
Proceeds from the tomato sales go towards funding his continued imprisonment
We could cancel all taxes and balance the national budget if they set this up for Trump.
There’d be a nationwide tomato shortage
🤣 There already is, thanks to conservatives!
Can we send him to Iran as a peace offering?
I would see him being handed over to the parents in Iran as fair. Then whatever happens to him is their rightful choice and it’s not the state making the decision
I’m very much against the death penalty but his public execution is one I’d actually watch.