The manufacturer explicitly positions the device as a response to constant availability and what it considers problematic mechanisms of modern smartphone platforms. In conversation with heise, Commodore CEO Peri Fractic describes the Callback 8020 as a “not stupid dumbphone” for people who want to spend less time scrolling and more time in the real world. It is envisioned as a secondary device for staying reachable without being constantly exposed to the temptations of a smartphone with its notifications, apps, and games. The decision was influenced by his young daughter and his own behavior: “I was addicted to my smartphone,” says Prei Fractic.

Fantastic. We need more people like that.

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    You still can get cheap dump phones.

    Regarding do this device:

    1. Manufacturing a phone in small numbers is not cheap
    2. If there were a way that you could have 50% more attention for your kids, yourself, and the people around you, how much would that be worth for you? How much is your attention worth?
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      1. I’m simply pointing out the price tag on the phone in question.
      2. I don’t need technology to save me from myself.
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            no need to troll here.

            And fascinating how predictibly this happens each time the interests of big tech companies are touched…

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              This is nothing to do with the interests of Big Tech, this guy has used old Big Tech design to sell a nice looking product, for a premium price. People in general don’t like to part with that much money for something that is described as a “secondary device” that limits their capabilities in a way that they should be able to do themselves. Most smartphones already have digital wellbeing and parental controls on them. There are also tons of guides and apps on how to limit or restrict things on your smartphone that you can buy for a fraction of the price.

              His pricing is all wrong, no doubt he will sell a few at that price to collectors, enthusiasts and some people that think it’s worth it. But at the end of the day, at this pricepoint, the phone will surely fall by the wayside.

              There are plenty of other phones trying with the same idea, but similarly, the high prices put people off, and many of those have premium features (ghost phone, light phone) The ghost phone also offers cheaper alternatives. For a retro look you have the Punkt phone or many others.

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              Tritt mal einen Schritt zurück und hol tief Luft mein Freund. Dann lies nochmal alles durch. Jemand bemängelt dass das gerät teuer ist und vage technische Spezifikationen hat, du nimmst das extrem persönlich nachdem deine deflektion dass man sich ja andere billigere Geräte holen kann, nicht wirklich landet. Das ist keine big tech propaganda, nur ein etwas dubioses Produkt.

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          Are you suggesting that every person with a smart phone is a dead brat parent or spouse? You do know that some people actually do have self control.

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      If there were a way that you could have 50% more attention for your kids, yourself, and the people around you, how much would that be worth for you? How much is your attention worth?

      Following this logic they could just as well stick a $50 000 price tag in it. It still wouldn’t be defensible.

      Manufacturing a phone in small numbers is not cheap

      Sure, but is it so much more expensive than manufacturing a HMD 2660, which does more or less the same things and retails for approx. $100?

      Let’s be for real, the whole Commodore thing nowadays is milking gen X nostalgia for all it’s worth. And I don’t think it’s worth that much.

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        is it so much more expensive than manufacturing a HMD 2660, which does more or less the same things and retails for approx. $100?

        Yes, extremely so.

        HMD will manufacture millions of them with partners they have been using for a decade, they will each skim a few dollars to cover costs and profit and still do fine.
        Commodore will manufacture a fraction of that volume using parts way more expensive as they buy less of them, and they still have to cover r&d and tooling costs from that lower volume.

        That is why kickstarters (and pre-orders) are so damn useful, as that allows you to get a start at covering those costs before you even manufacture anything.

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          If they were introducing some groundbreaking tech I could agree, but they’re using premade components to make their own version of an existing product. And sure, it’s cheaper to manufacture at scale but 5x the going price is way too much. For comparison, Nothing Phone launched 4 years ago at $400. By that logic it should’ve cost ~$1500.