Sadly, that’s like 99% of us not in the Epstein class. Where are all those real crazies, the organized psychos, when an actual evil pedophile elite is right there?
80 million sick fucks as well as all the people registered to vote that refuse to all because they think that women shouldn’t be leaders… in addition to all the filthy scum who think that compromise is treason when in reality aiding nazi filth is treason. whether that aid is refusing to vote, voting for republikkkans, or wasting votes on independents who can’t even make a name let alone getting votes… it’s all aiding nazi filth.
It shows how important christianity is to 2/3 of America— as in not at all. It’s why I can never take christian values seriously again because it’s obviously just another club with personal benefits for the people who join. Living the teachings of Christ is completely voluntary.
living the values and teachings of old white men claiming they heard god speak and who want women and children to be sex slaves is not religion. is a control mechanism that has raped and butchered people for 2000 years, while convincing delusional nutjobs who can only act right under the threat of damnation, that they are good people.
second worst… I think they hate transgender women more than they hate brown people (they basically ignore the existence of transgender men except in passing).
The problem is there are no meaningful citizen’s militias that aren’t themselves Nazis.
The left allowed itself to be disarmed for the purpose of purity signaling and the result is a gross lack of tribal knowledge with regards to engaging in protracted violence.
aw shit i guess i don’t exist anymore because someone on lemmy thinks all american leftists are just liberals so they can get more updoots by performatively conflating a leftist demographic with leftist politicians currently in government in response to someone who doesn’t know the difference between a leftist and a liberal.
What Americans call “left” would be considered moderate conservative centre-right in any civilised country (anything left of that you’d call communism).
Your “leftist” politicians (the so called “democrats") are regular right wing conservative populists, with some extra ultracapitalism and religious fundamentalism sprinkled on top.
What you’d call right wing or conservative (republicans) are ultracapitalist ultrafundamentalist far right fringe maniacs.
And maga are outright unapologetic fascists, on top of that (though, to be fair, fascism has been a core value in the USA for a long time, and at least these bastards don’t try to hide it; non-fascist nations don’t wave their flags everywhere, all day, every day, and they certainly don’t make their children recite pledges of allegiance, much less every day before starting school).
There hasn’t been any political left in the USA for several decades, if ever.
Trump’s approval rating is 18 points underwater, which is his lowest ever and like 16 points below where Bush was after Hurricane Katrina. He has fallen fast. Will be interesting to see whether our institutions can start to right themselves with Trump’s political power so diminished
They just don’t think it’s true. Not making excuses for them or anything here. But they are not accepting this as fact and then saying “yeah I’m okay with that.”
If you want to nail them for something it’s their head-in-the-sand approach to facts and evidence, not where they draw the line morally.
I personally don’t know that the witness in the story is credible or actually even real. There is real evidence to believe she was a made up by Jerry Spring producer Norm Lubow.
No one else has ever seen her in person. Once she was supposed to have an in person interview but canceled it and would only have a phone call instead.
I’m not saying I don’t think Trump is guilty of some really heinous shit, just that this specific witness doesn’t seem to be real.
No reasonable person is enthusiastic to go public with rape allegations against Trump, go on TV and talk about them, etc. and get MAGA death threats for the rest of their life and go down in history for it. I would not consider remaining private as credibility points either way. That’s like saying someone is guilty because they plead the 5th.
The privacy part doesn’t bother me. it’s the Jerry Springer producer involvement. His whole job was to make up stories for the show. I’m not saying he is or isn’t lying but because he is such an untrustworthy person, the chance for doubt becomes significantly higher.
Please note, I am not defending Trump or arguing over any of the other accusers.
My issue is just that a lot of people keep using Katie Johnson’s testimony as an open and shut case, ignoring all the problems with that accusation to back up their own wish for Trump to be a pedophile.
Is there a mountain of photographic evidence of them hanging out with notorious child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and calling them quote best friend" quote in multiple handwritten letters with crude silhouettes of children’s naked bodies?
Most think the same as you. Trump’s campaign promises were no war and releasing the Epstein files after Biden did absolutely nothing and sat on them for four years.
We’ve been betrayed by bOtH pArTiEs over the last eight years (and before that, for that matter)… because they’re BoTh all over the Epstein files.
We don’t have a “No Epstein” party in the USA, that is not allowed. We just have two corrupt shit parties.
(I’m not making random claims, either. We do have some information, like flight logs. Democrats and Republicans found common ground somehow and fucking loved that plane and the young girls on it).
Hey I just wanted to say that people like you are the reason that fat orange fuck is killing millions of children, go fuck yourself the parties are nothing alike.
Exactly this. It’s amazing how we start seeing the “both parties” rhetoric right around election seasons. But then they vanish afterwards, when they help get the vile fucks elected. It’s honestly astounding how people see clear evidence of the orange slimeball hurting children, and go “oh but the other side is just better at hiding it, so I might as well keep voting for the orange slimeball instead.” It’s the most asinine, cretinous, sophomoric line of reasoning imaginable.
Biden didn’t release them because there was an ongoing investigation keeping them sealed. Trump ended the investigation as part of his coverup. Good job preempting the fUnNy tExT though.
Honestly, probably a non zero amount, but I can assure you that the dem voters would actually care if it came out.
The Weiner scandal was actually a scandal and he served time. I’m not willing to go to bat for dem politicians (though I’d pick a random D over a random R politician any day), but I’ll definitely back dem voters on the whole for actually having some degree of standards or morals, which does generally lead to accountability.
I think that’s the main difference, because even if Rs and I disagreed, if they actually had morals we would not have found ourselves here. A bunch of Rs referred to Trump as a Hitler-like fascist and then bent the knee because the R voters didn’t care. It’s not that our politicians are somehow morally superior, though on the whole they definitely are, it’s that the actual base cares about the things they say they care about.
I can’t believe Americans (all institutions, and half of voters) are fine with this. This is fucked up.
My stomach turns just reading that headline. Beyond disgusting.
But not enough to actually do anything in the USA.
As much as I want to go full Luigi unfortunately I have mouths to feed and they won’t make it without me
There’s a reason that historically revolutions were started by young men with no children
That is not true whatsoever, but sure.
Sadly, that’s like 99% of us not in the Epstein class. Where are all those real crazies, the organized psychos, when an actual evil pedophile elite is right there?
Cheering them on unfortunately
And what are you doing about it? What do you think they can do that you can’t?
The horror of realizing this many people are ok with it is really hard to deal with. I never want to be around other people again.
Shit like this is why I’m afraid to try dating. There are so many rapists, abusers, and potential murderers out there
Finding a good one is like winning the lottery. :( I hope you find your person eventually.
Thanks
don’t date outside of your circles of interest. good chance you’d land on someone like you, if you like the same things.
We aren’t but we are slaves in a police state
80 million sick fucks as well as all the people registered to vote that refuse to all because they think that women shouldn’t be leaders… in addition to all the filthy scum who think that compromise is treason when in reality aiding nazi filth is treason. whether that aid is refusing to vote, voting for republikkkans, or wasting votes on independents who can’t even make a name let alone getting votes… it’s all aiding nazi filth.
It shows how important christianity is to 2/3 of America— as in not at all. It’s why I can never take christian values seriously again because it’s obviously just another club with personal benefits for the people who join. Living the teachings of Christ is completely voluntary.
living the values and teachings of old white men claiming they heard god speak and who want women and children to be sex slaves is not religion. is a control mechanism that has raped and butchered people for 2000 years, while convincing delusional nutjobs who can only act right under the threat of damnation, that they are good people.
There is no hate quite like Christian love.
Yeah, but she is BROWN. THE WORST CRIME IMAGINABLE!
/s of course
second worst… I think they hate transgender women more than they hate brown people (they basically ignore the existence of transgender men except in passing).
We’re Americans. We own guns.
The problem is there are no meaningful citizen’s militias that aren’t themselves Nazis.
The left allowed itself to be disarmed for the purpose of purity signaling and the result is a gross lack of tribal knowledge with regards to engaging in protracted violence.
What left? There is no left here.
aw shit i guess i don’t exist anymore because someone on lemmy thinks all american leftists are just liberals so they can get more updoots by performatively conflating a leftist demographic with leftist politicians currently in government in response to someone who doesn’t know the difference between a leftist and a liberal.
What Americans call “left” would be considered moderate conservative centre-right in any civilised country (anything left of that you’d call communism).
Your “leftist” politicians (the so called “democrats") are regular right wing conservative populists, with some extra ultracapitalism and religious fundamentalism sprinkled on top.
What you’d call right wing or conservative (republicans) are ultracapitalist ultrafundamentalist far right fringe maniacs.
And maga are outright unapologetic fascists, on top of that (though, to be fair, fascism has been a core value in the USA for a long time, and at least these bastards don’t try to hide it; non-fascist nations don’t wave their flags everywhere, all day, every day, and they certainly don’t make their children recite pledges of allegiance, much less every day before starting school).
There hasn’t been any political left in the USA for several decades, if ever.
No, it’s just that you mostly exist in some bubble online.
We’re not, but he is protected by one of the most well funded military’s in the world. We can’t exactly just walk up to him.
And yet people got so close. Soooo fucking close. We seriously need another Von Stauffenberg scenario.
Trump’s approval rating is 18 points underwater, which is his lowest ever and like 16 points below where Bush was after Hurricane Katrina. He has fallen fast. Will be interesting to see whether our institutions can start to right themselves with Trump’s political power so diminished
Exactly, he bragged about assaulting women and they said that’s for them!
They just don’t think it’s true. Not making excuses for them or anything here. But they are not accepting this as fact and then saying “yeah I’m okay with that.”
If you want to nail them for something it’s their head-in-the-sand approach to facts and evidence, not where they draw the line morally.
I personally don’t know that the witness in the story is credible or actually even real. There is real evidence to believe she was a made up by Jerry Spring producer Norm Lubow.
No one else has ever seen her in person. Once she was supposed to have an in person interview but canceled it and would only have a phone call instead.
I’m not saying I don’t think Trump is guilty of some really heinous shit, just that this specific witness doesn’t seem to be real.
No reasonable person is enthusiastic to go public with rape allegations against Trump, go on TV and talk about them, etc. and get MAGA death threats for the rest of their life and go down in history for it. I would not consider remaining private as credibility points either way. That’s like saying someone is guilty because they plead the 5th.
The privacy part doesn’t bother me. it’s the Jerry Springer producer involvement. His whole job was to make up stories for the show. I’m not saying he is or isn’t lying but because he is such an untrustworthy person, the chance for doubt becomes significantly higher.
Are you talking about Katie Johnson? The article links to legal documents detailing her complaint to the FBI.
Is there anything more you can do to falsify that report than casually mention some Jerry Springer producer?
The article in the link also says that no one knew about Epstein when Katie Johnson made her complaint in 2016 but that is false.
The article also neglects to mention how much Jerry Springer producer was involved in.
What We Know About Origins of Trump Child Rape Allegations
Please note, I am not defending Trump or arguing over any of the other accusers.
My issue is just that a lot of people keep using Katie Johnson’s testimony as an open and shut case, ignoring all the problems with that accusation to back up their own wish for Trump to be a pedophile.
Well it’s a tabloid writing about a ‘chilling accusation!’ about something 30 years ago
What would you do?
Umm… for starters, not vote for parties led by rapist pedophiles?
What if the candidate you support gets accused in such a way?
Is there a mountain of photographic evidence of them hanging out with notorious child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and calling them quote best friend" quote in multiple handwritten letters with crude silhouettes of children’s naked bodies?
Children’s naked bodies?
@guycls@lemmy.world I’ve got this, one sec.
Pretty sure that covers things.
That reminds me of the crowd in /r/thedonald where they were all getting riled up they were going to round up all the pedos immediately if they won
Ah, yes, /r/thedonald. Clearly the subreddit that would most accurately represent the fediverse.
What are you even trying to say? Democratic candidates are routinely sidelined by accusations of sexual impropriety.
Routinely? With things like this?
Then I would withdraw support
you wouldn’t look for evidence first? american fash has been calling every liberal a pedo for a decade now at least, and it’s always been projection.
He can go to prison then where he belongs.
What if you get accused in such a way?
I won’t be. But I guess you’d be quite f’d if they accused you. I can empathize a tiny bit (not really).
Are you under the impression this is the sole piece of evidence that Trump is a nonce?
I wouldn’t really call this ‘evidence’
Release the Epstein files.
Half of voters are not fine with this.
Most think the same as you. Trump’s campaign promises were no war and releasing the Epstein files after Biden did absolutely nothing and sat on them for four years.
We’ve been betrayed by bOtH pArTiEs over the last eight years (and before that, for that matter)… because they’re BoTh all over the Epstein files.
We don’t have a “No Epstein” party in the USA, that is not allowed. We just have two corrupt shit parties.
(I’m not making random claims, either. We do have some information, like flight logs. Democrats and Republicans found common ground somehow and fucking loved that plane and the young girls on it).
Hey I just wanted to say that people like you are the reason that fat orange fuck is killing millions of children, go fuck yourself the parties are nothing alike.
Exactly this. It’s amazing how we start seeing the “both parties” rhetoric right around election seasons. But then they vanish afterwards, when they help get the vile fucks elected. It’s honestly astounding how people see clear evidence of the orange slimeball hurting children, and go “oh but the other side is just better at hiding it, so I might as well keep voting for the orange slimeball instead.” It’s the most asinine, cretinous, sophomoric line of reasoning imaginable.
Biden didn’t release them because there was an ongoing investigation keeping them sealed. Trump ended the investigation as part of his coverup. Good job preempting the fUnNy tExT though.
Who are you voting for?
Lits the democrats that argued over who gets t rape a 13 year old.
Honestly, probably a non zero amount, but I can assure you that the dem voters would actually care if it came out.
The Weiner scandal was actually a scandal and he served time. I’m not willing to go to bat for dem politicians (though I’d pick a random D over a random R politician any day), but I’ll definitely back dem voters on the whole for actually having some degree of standards or morals, which does generally lead to accountability.
I think that’s the main difference, because even if Rs and I disagreed, if they actually had morals we would not have found ourselves here. A bunch of Rs referred to Trump as a Hitler-like fascist and then bent the knee because the R voters didn’t care. It’s not that our politicians are somehow morally superior, though on the whole they definitely are, it’s that the actual base cares about the things they say they care about.
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