Americans’ confidence in the economy sank to the lowest level in more than a decade this month as prices remain elevated and wages stagnate amid the ongoing Iran war.
Inflation was lower when Biden left, than what he inherited from Mango Mussolini
All three stock market indexes set records under Biden
Violent crime, property crime, and the murder rate dropped under Biden
Unemployment averaged 4.1%, below historical average
Now, you can nit pick these numbers, say how they aren’t representative of real people’s lives, or the median people’s lives and I’m not going to argue with you. Or you can point out the bad. But given these actual stats, Americans decided that nothing was better and trump would make things better. An insurrectionist, a liar, a sexual predator, a convicted felon, a racist, a narcissist, and on and on, was elected president. Again, after the train wreck of his first term.
tldr: American’s are stupid and their (our) opinions are trash. How many times will we see people bitching about trump, but then saying they’d vote for him again, or that there is no way they could vote for the other team?
I was visiting my American in-laws a few weeks ago and this type of thing infuriated me. They are basically hardcore Republicans who voted for Trump 3 times but don’t want to openly say it or, in the case of my mother and father in law, they keep acting like they don’t vote because “it doesn’t matter anyway”.
They then proceed to keep complaining about gas prices, grocery prices and general cost of living. My mother in law looked at the gas price and said “jeez, I wonder why gas is so expensive”. They are straight up the most ignorant people I’ve ever seen and they fit every single stereotype I have in my mind about rural voters.
And whenever I try to explain to them what the cause of all this is they just tell me that it has always been bad and that they won’t vote.
It’s one thing if you fuck yourself and your own country over (we have those voters here too in the Netherlands) but when you choose to elect someone (either by voting for them or not voting for the alternative) who has proven to be a disaster for both your country and the world as a whole it’s honestly on you and you deserve everything that comes your way, including the hate you get from people in other countries.
Edit: I forgot to add that they live in Michigan so they are even part of a crucial swing state, to make things more annoying. I tried talking to them about Abdul Al-Sayed and they didn’t even know who I was talking about.
If you look at effective voter manipulation strategies ie the cambridge analytica scandal, they object is not to rationally or irrationally persuade voters to change sides. The object is to sucessfully discourage the “other” side from voting. Making it seem pointless, “both sides are bad” and so on.
Your in-laws not voting is probably the best possible outcome. If they voted for Trump repeatedly they’re not going to magically develop respect for the life, liberty, and happiness of others.
Biden would be considered clearly right wing here (Denmark), but at least he was a “normal” person, and not a malignant narcissist.
As a rule of thumb, never vote for the psychopath no matter what he/she promises. The Psychopath doesn’t give a shit about people. And a psychopath simply can’t understand the social mechanisms that are necessary for a country to function well.
Trump as a malignant narcissist is the worst kind of psychopath and sociopath there is.
The fact that Trump was ever elected is a symptom of something seriously wrong in American society.
Yeah Biden is definitely more of a moderate right wing liberal according to most European countries standards.
I can somewhat imagine that people wanted change and decided to vote for Trump once, just to see what would happen. However, what I do not understand is the people who voted for him 2! times after that. How can you look at the endless list of shit he did in his first term and think “yeah I’ll have more of that please”.
people wanted change and decided to vote for Trump once
What I don’t understand is what that even would mean, substantively. As in actual policies, and not part of the culture war that conservatives are waging against America.
Change from…what? Things seemed to be getting back on track under Obama after the eight year debacle that was W.
Yeah, I guess that’s my point - the being an open piece of shit is part of the culture war. It’s not really about any policies, per se, other than those meant to hurt other people.
I’m not a Biden fan, but I’d like to point out:
Now, you can nit pick these numbers, say how they aren’t representative of real people’s lives, or the median people’s lives and I’m not going to argue with you. Or you can point out the bad. But given these actual stats, Americans decided that nothing was better and trump would make things better. An insurrectionist, a liar, a sexual predator, a convicted felon, a racist, a narcissist, and on and on, was elected president. Again, after the train wreck of his first term.
tldr: American’s are stupid and their (our) opinions are trash. How many times will we see people bitching about trump, but then saying they’d vote for him again, or that there is no way they could vote for the other team?
The economy is one of the only areas he did well
I was visiting my American in-laws a few weeks ago and this type of thing infuriated me. They are basically hardcore Republicans who voted for Trump 3 times but don’t want to openly say it or, in the case of my mother and father in law, they keep acting like they don’t vote because “it doesn’t matter anyway”.
They then proceed to keep complaining about gas prices, grocery prices and general cost of living. My mother in law looked at the gas price and said “jeez, I wonder why gas is so expensive”. They are straight up the most ignorant people I’ve ever seen and they fit every single stereotype I have in my mind about rural voters.
And whenever I try to explain to them what the cause of all this is they just tell me that it has always been bad and that they won’t vote.
It’s one thing if you fuck yourself and your own country over (we have those voters here too in the Netherlands) but when you choose to elect someone (either by voting for them or not voting for the alternative) who has proven to be a disaster for both your country and the world as a whole it’s honestly on you and you deserve everything that comes your way, including the hate you get from people in other countries.
Edit: I forgot to add that they live in Michigan so they are even part of a crucial swing state, to make things more annoying. I tried talking to them about Abdul Al-Sayed and they didn’t even know who I was talking about.
If you look at effective voter manipulation strategies ie the cambridge analytica scandal, they object is not to rationally or irrationally persuade voters to change sides. The object is to sucessfully discourage the “other” side from voting. Making it seem pointless, “both sides are bad” and so on.
Your in-laws not voting is probably the best possible outcome. If they voted for Trump repeatedly they’re not going to magically develop respect for the life, liberty, and happiness of others.
Biden would be considered clearly right wing here (Denmark), but at least he was a “normal” person, and not a malignant narcissist.
As a rule of thumb, never vote for the psychopath no matter what he/she promises. The Psychopath doesn’t give a shit about people. And a psychopath simply can’t understand the social mechanisms that are necessary for a country to function well.
Trump as a malignant narcissist is the worst kind of psychopath and sociopath there is.
The fact that Trump was ever elected is a symptom of something seriously wrong in American society.
Yeah Biden is definitely more of a moderate right wing liberal according to most European countries standards.
I can somewhat imagine that people wanted change and decided to vote for Trump once, just to see what would happen. However, what I do not understand is the people who voted for him 2! times after that. How can you look at the endless list of shit he did in his first term and think “yeah I’ll have more of that please”.
What I don’t understand is what that even would mean, substantively. As in actual policies, and not part of the culture war that conservatives are waging against America.
Change from…what? Things seemed to be getting back on track under Obama after the eight year debacle that was W.
The point of a representative democracy is that nobody needs to know every fine detail of politics. They pick a representative to do that for them.
Then nobody pays any attention, apart from an occasional headline.
They saw someone being an open piece of shit, and that was a change from the previously diplomatic suits. Change you can believe in!
Yeah, I guess that’s my point - the being an open piece of shit is part of the culture war. It’s not really about any policies, per se, other than those meant to hurt other people.