• kalpol@lemmy.ca
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      2 days ago

      This is true, friend has one. Just like regular cruise control, you can goose it and it returns to self driving. Not for long though I think, then it shuts off.

      The other thing not mentioned are the interior cameras, Teslas have interior cameras too so they have him recorded doing whatever he was doing.

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        I want to believe you, because that’s the sensible way of handling user input. But here’s a forbes article about another incident:

        There are four ways to disengage FSD – pressing the accelerator is not one:

        • Press the brake pedal.
        • If equipped, move the gear stalk upward.
        • If equipped, press the right scroll wheel on the steering wheel.
        • Take over (grab and jerk) the steering wheel and steer manually.
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          That’s what I said? The accelerator does not disable self drive, and it’s not in the list.

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            Oh then I misinterpreted this line to mean the opposite, my bad!

            Not for long though I think, then it shuts off.

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              Oh yeah that was unclear. I meant i think it doesn’t let you just keep accelerating in FSD without shutting off FSD. But I actually don’t know. I’ll ask the owner I know.

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                As a different owner, pressing the accelerator while in FSD does not disengage. Keeping it pressed shows a warning that the car will not brake while you are overriding it. Holding it for a longer period (maybe 20s?) will start some warning feedback that will result in FSD disengaging after several more seconds. It also disengages if you exceed a set limit, which I think is 85, but I don’t hit that situation often.

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          That Forbes article is also wrong. Pressing the right scroll wheel activates voice command input and does nothing to FSD.

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          well advance the counterpoint, then. here, i’ll get you started, “the car is still in full control when the driver overrides the speed of the vehicle. speed control is not a factor in driving”

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            What are you even arguing, FSD is a programmed feature in their cars and according to the black box of the car it was turned on at the time of the accident. Period. Read the article.

            What your* opinion on what actually constitutes full self driving is completely irrelevant here.

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            Then that’s not full self driving. If you can’t fall asleep in the back seat, it’s not full self driving.

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              I’m not sure you know what the word “supervised” means. If I supervised you while you dug a hole, who dug the hole? Me or you?

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                If someone needs to be watched to dig a hole, they are a shit hole digger, and should not be trusted to dig a hole.

                Also, I wasn’t aware that FSD stood for Full Supervised Driving. Interesting stuff.

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                  Funny, you didn’t answer the question.

                  How about an exam supervisor? Who is doing the exam, the student or the supervisor?

                  It’s not called “Full Self Driving” - it’s called “Full Self Driving (Supervised)”. It does the driving, you need to supervise to step in if it goes to do something wrong.