I’ve noticed that there seems to be an emphasis on being extremely serious at all times, as if every single comment is a PhD dissertation being evaluated or something. There’s like this weird, subtle one upmanship about every little thing and a lot of people are very nitpicky and judgmental. It kind of takes the fun out of being on here, TBH. Or am I the only one experiencing this?

  • Smoogs@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    10 days ago

    oh yeah. just got through one of these. I am expected to obtain solid studies if i so much as go against the flow of popular opinions of which have had never had to be up against any scrutiny what so ever.

    eg: vegans speaking on consciousness and how they believe it exists in the brain.

    they speak about consiousness and it’s location like it has all been proven. They provide no papers. no proof. just how they feel about consciousness when talking about it.

    And there is none. any papers that that exist today are all based in theory around the existance of consciousness and ideas of what consciousness means. no hard facts.

    but if you question a vegan on their feefees about consiousness they ask you for the science studies and facts and freely call you insane for daring to question them.

    Apparently you’re not supposed to consume anything with a brain that would support thought and a nervous system according to their ideas of consciousness. So it appears sea cucumbers, star fish and jelly fish are vegan food according to their beliefs of consciousness.

    of course they loose their shit if you challenge it to any depth like this.

    dont get me wrong: im all for the plant based diet as its better for the body and planet. i just think the reasonings around using the consiousness argument is very weak. if they can say consiousness exists with animals: i can say consiousness exists in plants too.

    • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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      10 days ago

      The other extreme where only humans are off limits doesn’t really make sense either, though. Forget about “pigs are fine, but not dogs and cats”.

      There’s a lot of open ground for inquiry on how to judge what you should kill in some logical, self-consistent way. It’s too much of a hot button for many people to bother, though.

      • Smoogs@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 days ago

        another idea is that we stop putting the importance on consciousness as the rule around the morality of it at least until we can all understand consciousness more truly.

        theres plenty of ideas such as sustainability, lower consumption, less harm to plants and animals (regardless of consiousness), less toiling of the earth, healthier body. these are all feasible and more important discussions to have around consumption that are backed up with facts and studies

        • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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          9 days ago

          That’s kind of an exotic approach. Normally, morality is built around the idea you shouldn’t inflict suffering on others, and to suffer requires consciousness (or something similar).

          Sure, there’s other reasons to be a vegetarian as well, like just your own health and saving money.

          • Smoogs@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            9 days ago

            I believe even plants have consciousness and that consciousness is a waveform

            And science hasn’t really scraped the surface on any of this for any one to speak with certainties around what we should be doing around the topic of consciousness.

            so there’s no real clean argument around that particular topic that will fit everyone

  • GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    I know what you mean.

    There’s a lot of people here who just take everything so seriously, and want to one up everyone. That they don’t even know why they’re ramming a stick up their ass anymore.

    • Mastersmacks@reddthat.com
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      8 days ago

      Wait aren’t you literally that guy who goes around starting trouble by saying all gamers are subhuman or something? I have seen you have like 30+ comment flame wars about this.

      Kinda seems like the pot calling the kettle black

      • GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world
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        7 days ago

        Let me break kayfabe for a bit

        I do it because I know there’s a bunch of gamers who do take it seriously. Because they have a stick up their ass. They take what is meant to be a fun hobby, and take it so seriously they don’t realise what they’re doing.

        I’m big into sim racing, and the sheer amount of people who get upset over driving fake cars using hunks of plastic. Of course I’m going to make fun of people over that.

        I censor gamer for heaven’s sake. How could anyone take me seriously.

        • Mastersmacks@reddthat.com
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          3 days ago

          Kind of seems like you’re just being antagonistic for no reason, doesn’t matter if you think no one should take you seriously. It’s the internet, tone doesn’t translate

          • GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world
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            2 days ago

            Two reasons.

            1. It’s funny.

            2. Gamers get really upset. Especially when you make a good point. Bring up Valve being against refunds, or their Most-Favored-Nation clause, or being part of Video games Europe (the group against Stop Killing Games).

            And I disagree about tone not translating. Because if the gamers are getting upset. Then the tone has translated pretty well.

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        11 days ago

        Jesus…

        You don’t realize you’re the problem in that thread?

        They said they were don’t responding to them, and you accused them of harassing them for replying?

        Why reply again to prolong it?

        Even if you didn’t block them, you could have just not responded. But you did, and then just keep insulting them with someone else.

        Just, I’ve never seen a bigger example of a problem blaming everything else for a problem existing.

        • Wren@lemmy.todayEnglish
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          11 days ago

          Wait, you’re blaming someone for telling the obviously sexist dude to leave the women’s only community, when the guy keeps responding with more sexist bullshit?

          edit: And now you’ve banned Velma from your community for disagreeing with you here. I’ve never seen a better example of a problem with lemmy.

          • edible_funk@sh.itjust.works
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            10 days ago

            Yeah givesomefucks is one of the worst offenders of stereotypical reddit mod bullshit, dude is literally what this post is talking about. Pretty sure he uses sock puppets too because all his dumbass takes have a similar number of upvotes and all the people he argues with have a similar number of downvotes.