Here’s some discussion of omitting “that” after a noun. I don’t agree with Grammar Girl on what sounds awkward but she acknowledges that sentences can sound awkward but not be “wrong”.
The Packers haven’t drafted a quarterback despite rumors they were interested in doing so.
Again, these sentences aren’t wrong, but they would sound a lot better with “that” inserted after the nouns “allegations” and “rumors.”
That’s only because in the original sentence it’s talking about things generally (eg “strawberries are red”), so it needs a plural or a mass noun, which is the case in the original sentence. You could say “Quarterbacks Packers draft” instead. Or think of a team name that can’t use “the”, like “goalies West Ham United signed”.
The point of the buffalo sentence is that it’s technically grammatically correct, even if it sounds awkward. It’s a really famous sentence among linguists, so do you really think all the language nerds who’ve seen it have missed that it’s actually not grammatical and needs a relative pronoun?
Quaterback Twins Greenbay Packers draft, play Detroit Lions.
This sounds fine to me (although I wouldn’t use the comma), I dunno what to tell you. Maybe it’s different in your idiolect, but again, do you really think you’re picking up on something that countless other linguists missed?
Here’s some discussion of omitting “that” after a noun. I don’t agree with Grammar Girl on what sounds awkward but she acknowledges that sentences can sound awkward but not be “wrong”.
https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/articles/when-to-delete-that/
Quaterback Love [that] Greenbay Packers drafted, played Detroit Lions.
Some sentences can drop the relative pronouns and still make sense. This isn’t one of them.
“The quarterback the packers drafted” sounds fine to me
You’ve had to add “The” to make it make sense.
“Quaterback Packers drafted” doesn’t make sense.
That’s only because in the original sentence it’s talking about things generally (eg “strawberries are red”), so it needs a plural or a mass noun, which is the case in the original sentence. You could say “Quarterbacks Packers draft” instead. Or think of a team name that can’t use “the”, like “goalies West Ham United signed”.
The point of the buffalo sentence is that it’s technically grammatically correct, even if it sounds awkward. It’s a really famous sentence among linguists, so do you really think all the language nerds who’ve seen it have missed that it’s actually not grammatical and needs a relative pronoun?
Nope. Still missing a word.
If the sentence was technically grammatically correct then a direct substitution of all 8 words (without adding more) should make sense.
I’ve already provided a counter example where it doesn’t make sense. I’ll drop my argument if you can find one that does.
This sounds fine to me (although I wouldn’t use the comma), I dunno what to tell you. Maybe it’s different in your idiolect, but again, do you really think you’re picking up on something that countless other linguists missed?
Without an additional word between words 2 and 3, this is just a list. That’s why it makes no sense.
You only think it makes sense because you are adding in words subconsciously.
Still waiting for an example that actually works.
do you really think you’re picking up on something that countless other linguists missed?