I understand the consensus at large is no, but what if they could be used for, say, administrative purposes, or some other task which, though not unimportant, might be considered trivial compared to, say, surgery or assessments?

Just a thought.

Also, in addition to whether such technology should be used, do you believe it to be inevitable in any case?

To be sure, I’m not advocating for or against it, merely curious what other people’s opinions are and why they hold such opinions on this potentially inevitable subject

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    Can you elaborate? I mean, we’ve had deaths in surgery for as long as surgery has existed, why would AI be different (better or worse?) thanks

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      Llm models can not run a vending machine business, what makes you think can do medial related stuff?

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      What were calling AI doesn’t “know” anything. It takes in data, and it spits out other data based on probabilities within a database.

      Every AI system’s mker is very direct in saying that their system makes mistakes.

      Humans, on the other hand, learn.

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        I understand that. But what about an administrative role? Like, for example, organising a database in that context?

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          Administrative roles still can result in things like the wrong mediation being administered or an important procedure being rejected.

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              YES

              They already design systems that give predictable results and those are complicated and require constant upkeep as things chsnge over time. These systems still have issuee.

              AI would be worse than that.

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      There is no mechanism for accountability or even auditing decision. We can’t put the unaccountable in charge of life and death.

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        But isn’t that like saying ‘we can’t hold the dog owner responsible for the dog ripping the child to death’? Surely whoever oversees the AI is accountable? (I’m not really up on AI law tbf)

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          We do hold the dog owner accountable.
          We’ve never held the AI creator or operator responsible.

          If we started holding people meaningful accountable for the AI stuff, we’d probably stop seeing it used so much.

          But also, you wouldn’t put a dog in charge of decisions about someone’s life.

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            But also, you wouldn’t put a dog in charge of decisions about someone’s life

            No of course not, I was just drawing a comparison on responsibility is all.

            As for the AI stuff, good point. Do you think that the reason we don’t hold them accountable is so that AI doesn’t get reduced?

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              Nobody wants to be accountable. AI let’s people hold accountability at arm’s length, because nobody is forcing the person responsible for the decision to use AI to be accountable for the decisions of that AI. It’s a positive feedback loop, where everyone involved in AI benefits from the lack of accountability, regardless of actual outcomes.