Probably Nickelback. I’m no fan, but they seem to get the most hate of anyone just for being mediocre.
Hating them is a meme I guess. I don’t mind them.
I think the whole hating on Nickelback started with people who thought Nickelback was the best band in the world. They’re like the most average band in the world. They’re not bad, but they aren’t particularly good either.
I agree. They have some solid songs, especially the ones with lyrics dealing with more serious subject matter. But they’re just not amazing either.
They had a good song recently “she keeps me up”.
There’s nothing of theirs that I like and I think they’re mediocre at best, but I agree. The amount of hate is totally unjustified.
I read somewhere once that their agent would book them at any festival that would accept them. That lead to them getting booed a lot where they didn’t match the rest of the lineup. People began to anticipate them and became a heel type character to avid concert goers.
and like, they’re not even that bad
Foo Fighters, for some reason, are fucking loved, and yet if you actually listen to their albums, they’re just… meh
they got a few good songs and a lot of things I never want to hear again. and that’s coming from someone whose favourite band was them for a very long time. not to mention they sound like shit live
Comedy Central destroyed Nickleback. There was a comedy special or show, I don’t remember. Anyway, they promoted the show with a clip from a stand-up bit that was at Nickleback’s expense. I you watched The Daily Show, or South Park, you would have seen that ad a hundred times. After that, liking Nickleback was an embarrassment.
What follows is my bad recollection of the joke.
People say that music can incite violence and I think that’s true because every time I listen to Nickleback I want to hurt… Nickleback.
I barely remember that… Christ…that seems so long ago.
Brian posehn. The geologist from Big bang theory.
I remember that, and this is accurate. Thing is, Brian Poesehn is famously a hard core heavy metal fan, and seems to judgementally hate anything but what he personally likes, so Nickelback got taken down by a guy with questionable taste.
For me it’s “Photograph.” Such an aggressively sappy and mediocre song. Every time I hear it, it reminds me of an essay I would have written on the bus on the way to school in 6th grade.
I kind of like “Never Again”, it’s a bit heavy-handed but it’s got crunchy guitar and the message is good, don’t put up with abusive shit.
But seriously, what the hell IS on Joey’s head?
I decided to look it up and it’s a champagne chiller polished really well, looks like the Stanley cup
I don’t mind their one song. But that’s the thing, they only have one song (they all sound the same).
I suspect the real reason a lot of people hate them is because they have mastered the earworm. One line from any of their songs will ruin your day.
Imagine Dragons. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is:
They picked up hate for being marketed like they’re some kind of super hard rock, even though they’re not. But their music is good for the genre it is. The lead singer was raised Mormon, but is now an activist for LGBT youth.
i think they picked up the hate for being played everywhere and a lot of their songs sound the same. Interesting lore on the lead singer, that does make me like them more
I always thought it was because they essentially pioneered the “rock music for commercials” genre
That thunder song was legitimately terrible.
I didnt know who that was… Now I hate Imagine Dragons.
I think it was ACDC, and there’s a drinking game that goes with it
Two different songs
I know “thunder…awa wa wawawa” one. Never heard of a different one!
Cutthroat is tge worst aong ever recorded.
I don’t like them because there’s no singer, just a guy screaming in an auto tune cranked to 10.
there’s no autotune tho
I can guarantee with as corporate and overproduced as that shit is they 100% use autotune. When you do it right you can’t tell. I use it in my home studio even, most songs use it across all genres.
It’s difficult to autotune screaming and sound that good. As a Windmill scene fan, the problem with Imagine Dragons is not the vocals (the lead has awesome technical abilities); it’s the lack of a point.
what on earth does any of this mean?
what is a Windmill scene and what do you mean by lack of a pint? like a pint of beer? they would be better if they were drunk?
I swear I ninja-edited it to “point”. “Windmill scene” you can search up; it’s not too easy to describe. Some call it “crank wave”? Some call it art punk.
I did some research and it looks like they do on some and don’t on others which is about as milquetoast as I’d expect from them
Could you elaborate on which songs they use autotune on? Other than whatever “Thunder” is.
I’ve met so many people who hate Meatloaf. I think Bat out of Hell is a top 10 album.
The songs are good. The person was a POS that I’m glad is gone. Sadly. So many musicians of that era are maga turds.
Yeah, but I’m talking about the music. If we only listened to music from good people we wouldn’t have much to choose from.
Exactly.
Following that logic, the Harry Potter universe is perfectly acceptable. Just ignore the raging transphobe that is JK.
Well, for one, she’s still alive
I’d argue that the difference is that JK is actively using the money she gets for Harry Potter to influence policy and hurt people. I don’t remember Meat Loaf doing that…
So just a little bit of racism and pedophila support is acceptable, as long as their music is decent? Just don’t go full on TERF?
I think I only really know two Meatloaf songs, and I’m not particularly fond of either of them.
Oh, well because you know two songs I guess I’m just wrong.
That was a really strange way to interpret my comment. Sorry for trying to participate in the conversation.
Honestly, what were you thinking?
your wrong, because I know more then 2 of his songs and Bat out of Hell is lame. Even by 1970s standards.
So lame that it went 14 times platinum.
boomers and bad taste, the winning combo
Yeah, because only boomers have bad taste. 🙄
I like the song “do anything for love” because it is a core memory of my mama singing her heart out to it while we were driving to the beach in Clearwater. I was like 5 or 6.
I can close my eyes and see her now.
Boy, am I glad I’m moving my family back in with my ma. Being she got stage 4. Thank you for reminding me of this memory.
Back when I was a wedding DJ, I’d queue up Meatloaf when I had to take a shit
Makes sense, his songs are pretty long.
Meatloaf was a terrible human being, it’s hard to ignore that and like his music. I used to like that album before I knew though.
What? What did the 'loaf do to anyone?
I don’t think being pro-Trump and then realising he was a sack of shit and then becoming anti-Trump necessarily counts as being a terrible human being.
His only other controversial stuff seems to be being a climate change denier and anti-vaxxer but I put that down to stupidity over any malice on his part.
Plus you can argue that Jim Steinman was a bigger part of Loafs music than Loaf himself.
The amount of Rock stars that aren’t terrible humans probably wouldn’t fill two hands.
His name was Robert Paulson.
Hanson. Their curse was that Mmmbop became THE hit early in their career. Their later stuff is in fact alright and with a lot more skill involved than a single repeated hook.
“Lost Without Each Other” is a genuine bop. They’re a lot better than they get credit for.
Ghost comes to mind. I’ve never had a problem with them and a lot of their songs I think are pretty good. Seems like they get shit on a lot though.
I can’t listen to Ghost because someone said they sounded like Scooby-Doo chase music.
They’re basically Dark ABBA
I’ve never really listened to Ghost but I have a buddy who really likes both them and ABBA, so that tracks
Lady Gaga with Satanic/Catholic imagery.
I love ghost. Great songwriting and their mixes are fuckin solid (Andy Wallace of course)
Really? I’ve never heard anything bad about them, whenever I hear someone talk about them it’s always very positive
“they’re not ‘heavy metal’, and not really satanic”
People just struggle to put them in a category, and that hurts some people’s brains but I really dig it.
Seconded. They make good music and seem to have fun doing it.
Have anything to read about them? Never even heard of them
Gotcha. Ghost is a metal pop concept band, where the front man is an ongoing chain of satanic antipopes (while still being the same dude in face paint). Only they are all really bad at converting the world to Satan worship on account of doing the actual work is no fun, and what’s the point of being the satanic antipope if you aren’t gonna have fun.
Sounds great! Only… Metalheads are like “this isn’t metal” and they’re kinda right. Its pop music, but metal and satanic.
Also, the front man may have fucked over his bandmates, or maybe not, depends really. I’m inclined to say his behavior may have been shitty, but that’s something you should work out beforehand.
As a metal head, I didn’t understand Ghost for the longest time. I didn’t hate it, but “this isn’t metal” was my exact thought, lol. Took me a few tries before I finally thought they were “okay”. Then I went to see them live, and now they’re probably in my top 15 bands.
A lot of fellow metal heads out there don’t like it when music is fun enough to be enjoyed by people who don’t keep a closet full of long-sleeved band shirts. A couple years ago I ran into an old coworker at a Fleshgod Apocalypse show and they got angry when I asked if they were interested in tagging along to an upcoming Dethklok show.
Dethklok is awesome tho
I saw Dethklok and Babymetal together, your old coworker would have hated it.
I love that it sounds like dark 80s pop. I have a friend that I told square hammer was about Freemasonry because he’s a mason. Took like 2 years of listening to it before he really caught the lyrics.
I just watched the music video, and in that context it’s pretty funny. “Wield the square hammer! It is your destiny!” is hilarious
I really like their cover of Avalanche, originally by Leonard Cohen.
I love Ghost’s image, genre and sound. My only complaint is all their songs started sounding the same when I tried to do a straight listen-through of their works.
Nickelback hate was pretty bad but got better I feel. Animals is a banger.
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I’m sure “most hated” has already been covered, so I’ll go farther down the list and pick one that’s a little hated and IMHO more than “not bad”: Crash Test Dummies.
Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm gets clowned on by people who remember it, but (1) it’s pretty good, and (2) CTD’s first three albums are full of super catchy folk-pop-rock with decent lyrics. Some of the third album, and then subsequent stuff gets deeper and deeper into Brad Roberts’ then-current interests and generally doesn’t grab me, but more power to him.
Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm itself was undoubtedly picked to be sonically polarizing and grab more attention than some of the slightly less “Crash Test Dummyish” tracks.
I’ve never listened to any of their songs besides mmm mmm mmm and I still love it so much. Its a defining part of the 90s for me
Honestly, I like CTD, but with just a few more songs, Superman’s Song, The Ghosts that Haunt Me, and Afternoons & Coffeespoons, you should probably have enough for a lifetime, LOL. Superman’s Song may even be vaguely familiar if you were reading comics in those days, as it came out not too long before the (in)famous Death of Superman arc.
Lars Ulrich of Metallica is I think the most hated metal musician today, with the Napster case and his recent performances which are way too snare-heavy if you ask me (some would use the word “lazy”).
But the large majority of the metal scene acts as if he was the worst drummer ever, which is obviously not the case. If you go and listen to Metallica’s 80s and early 90s stuff, including bootlegs of live performances, this drummer is more than capable, but he also invented a lot of fills and patterns that came to be used prominently by others, like Mike Portnoy.
So I’m not saying this in defense of the guy - don’t know him personally - but that’s a blatant case of people not listening with their ears if you ask me…
Justin Bieber. He can play like 5 instruments incredibly well. He didn’t handle fame very well and they kinda forced him to be what he is.
He’s like the dude version of Brittney. Like they even publicly sexualized him too it just looked a little different because he’s male.
Moby. Play is a great album and I play that shit at least once a year.
There’s a fun heavyweights podcast episode about Moby’s childhood friend who lent him the Folkways album boxed set, which Moby used to make Play, and never gave it back :p
Reminds me of when Bob Dylan was young and starting out, he was invited to a DJs house that had a bunch of hard to find albums and stole them, which basically shaped his taste in music.
That was the soundtrack to my uni years. It got old after a bit as it was pretty much ubiquitous, but I listened recently and really enjoyed it.
I remember my roommate said they should rename the album from ‘Play’ to ‘Songs for Adverts’, as it seemed like every commercial used a track from it at one point, which probably didn’t help the overplayed criticism.
His ambient stuff is my happy place
At least in the thrash scene, Anthrax gets shit on a lot for being part of the Big 4, however I fucking love them, even though they had a period where every release was dogshit. Their early stuff is peak thrash, which is good because nowadays they mainly stick to playing their early stuff. Still deserving of their position. Though sometimes I wonder if it should be a Big 5, including Exodus, who were one of the first.
Anthrax has some really great stuff. But as you said, you have too tread carefully through their catalog. When they are good, they are amazing… When they are bad, they are really bad.
Totally agree.
Top comment on the vid hits the nail on the head.: “Big 4 summary Slayer: Fastest and Heaviest Megadeth: Most technical Metallica: Largest impact Anthrax: Thrash that makes you want to grab a beer and have a party.”
Years ago I went to the Slayer farewell tour. There were a lot of bands that I had wanted to see for a long time: Testament, Behemoth, Lamb of God, and Anthrax.
In my opinion, Anthrax stole the show. I hadn’t listened to them much before that show, but on my way back home I played a lot from their catalog and realized I had been missing out.
Peak Anthrax
Testament > Exodus
Sodom > All
Fuck yeah, exodus is great but testament fuckin riiiiips.
Anthrax get shit on for being silly as fuck and making cheesy ass Thrash, and I love Anthrax.
It should always have been Exodus.
Also, fuck the big 4. There’s so much incredibly good thrash from then and right now that gets ignored for these overhyped dildos.
Agreed. However the big 4 was never about the “best 4” bands, it was the “bestselling 4” or “gateway bands”. They should have been treat as the 4 bands to start out with, however people seem to think they are the best bands and therefore there is no point listening to other thrash🙄. Which couldn’t be further from the truth.
NOFX gets a lot of flack, I love their music.
Curious, what kind of flack do they get? I always thought they were well regarded
Elitist punks gatekeeping what counts as punk.
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Taylor Swift, the modern version. She used to be a genuinely talented singer songwriter but has gone way too far into the popstar life. I remember her playing solo songs on an acoustic guitar, and she was good.
i feel like you read the question (“actually not that bad”) wrong
I mean people like Chris Brown and Kanye both make themselves hated for things outside their music. Then there are people like Prince who would act like they were all high and mighty and have his staff tell everyone to not look him in the eye or even look at him. Was his music good, sure… But if someone told me not to look at him I’d mark it as a red flag and not buy his shit.
The “Don’t look them in the eye” rule is as misunderstood as Van Halen’s removal of brown M&Ms.
When famous people have to navigate through hallways, etc., they have to pass others, and many people try to get their attention, so they can say Hi, tell them how much they love the artist, etc. Perhaps they just want to catch their attention and smile.
That artist is a person, like anyone else. They have a lot on their mind, and they are probably trying to get somewhere, to do something, and they are concentrating on that. They don’t want to have to stop for every person, smile, say Hi, hear about how important they are, yadda yadda. They just want to get on with their thing.
Think about how you would feel if you had something important on your mind, with other people counting on you, and waiting for you, and you have to stop and act polite with every random stranger who wants to interact with you, so they can go home and tell everybody. Is it any wonder why celebrities are late to everything?
So they tell their staff to keep people from bothering them, and the easiest way to do that is to simply prohibit anyone from trying to look them in the eye. Obviously, if the VIP approaches you, asks you questions, looks you in the eye, that rule is off.
The M&M thing was because VanHalen had the biggest stage rig ever at the time, and they needed specific electric, lighting, etc. qualifications. They would arrive, and find venues inadequate because the venue didn’t bother to read the contract. So they started adding the M&M thing so they knew as soon as they walked in the door if the venue had read the contract. If there were brown M&Ms, then it meant that the venue either hadn’t read the contract, or had decided to ignore whatever clauses they felt like. Either way was a broken contract problem.
Dudes staff would message everyone who would would be in his vacinity at award shows to tell them not to look him in the eye. He’s not performing, he’s sitting in the stands. Sounds more like he was on the spectrum and couldn’t cope with people well.
How dare you! Why would you suggest that a virtuoso prodigy with serious interpersonal antisocial quirks might be on the autism spectrum
That sounds like something people would say about their dogs
I could definitely see the spectrum angle for obvious reasons, but I swear I heard somewhere it was more a request by his staff because he was too friendly and he’d spend way too long talking to everyone. I may be running off someone else tho
The Beatles are alright.
They just sound boring to younger people because they were so influential, their work got incorporated into all of pop music.
I don’t personally hate them but my college roommate did because he thought they were boring.
Even if you don’t grasp the context of the times, it’s insane to call them “boring” unless they never listened past “A Hard Days Night” or “Help!”
Even those are only “boring” because they were so groundbreaking and influential
Right, they aren’t boring by any means, it’s just before they started getting really experimental.
Though they were smoking TONS of weed during Help! and you can def tell that something was different imo. Meeting with Bob Dylan fundamentally changed them.
