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    Sadly, they did not literally melt down. They’re still out there, wastefully breathing air and occupying space, and still trying to persecute innocent people and to steal everything they can grab.

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    I am going to assume the strategy by MAGA will be to allow this to fester. Then towards the next election they’ll start astro turfing and building communities to identify the most insane ones and then amplify those voices to their base and the general public.

    Do we prepare?

    No. Let it happen. Every time. Go out there and slash those tires of random people trying to get to work in the morning r/fuckcars

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      You are allowed to be happy my dude. Vote for the candidate that supports what you want, not the candidate that you think everyone else is going to vote for. You and everyone else subject to the corpofacist propaganda machine only thinks the second candidate is more electable because of the corporate propaganda. Vote for your own best interests And the better policies will follow.

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        No it won’t. This is such an insane comment as if you just haven’t existed in the real world for the past 10 years. Democracy is broken and when we have the landscape that we currently do, your idea is the worst advice possible. People need to lock in and vote strategically. It’s only after you have stability that anyone should do what you suggest. But until then there are serious consequences for following advice like yours. There are some things that if you fail today, you’ll never get another chance the rest of your life. Things don’t just go back to some baseline because you feel it in heart that you can ignore the current political situation. Historically it is more likely to fail and create suffering. Vote to win, not for feeling good

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          That attitude is why trump won in 2016 and 2024. Abdul and Zohran are what happens when people stop listening to the electability propaganda of the Centrists. That electability argument is the primary reason we are left with ineffective libs shoving money in their pockets. Ignoring Trump, would you rather have Bernie or Hillary at the head of your political party?

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    When listening to their debate, I didn’t know it was about the primaries and I really thought that Haley Stevens was an anti-Trump Republican or something. It is actually crazy that people call the Democrats ‘left’.

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      It is actually crazy that people call the Democrats ‘left’.

      To quote from one of the classics:

      Where is the party in opposition that has not been decried as communistic by its opponents in power? Where is the opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of communism, against the more advanced opposition parties, as well as against its reactionary adversaries?

      I’ve seen Democrats label Republicans “communist” for almost as long as I’ve seen Republicans accusing Democrats of the same. In a country of, by, and for fascists, all “Left” means is “I hate you”.

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      She probably is an anti-Trump Republican. All the Republicans who can’t stomach Trump started moving to the Democratic Party. But they aren’t changing their beliefs, they are changing the party.

      Either the GOP gets healthy or dies. There is a need for a progressive party.

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    MAGA acolytes were having a meltdown at the prospect of an El-Sayed victory - particularly after he unapologetically used the phrase “inshallah”—“God willing” in Arabic

    Lol fucking Republican morons

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      They should stop speaking Hebrew when they say Amen! Speak Murican when you praise God goddamnit!

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          No, it comes from the word for “right” (in the sense of both the hand and of being correct). That’s the meaning in both Hebrew and Arabic. The Egyptian word “Amun” has a different etymology and means something that’s concealed. He was The God With No Name, the Hidden One.

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    Just thinking that some of my federal tax is going to Israel, which is then funneled back through AIPAC to buy attack ads, political operatives, and media time for both Republicans and Democrats to defeat him. If it’s not too late, they will finance an independent candidate to siphon votes from him? And I’m paying for it all! Fun huh?

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    “Melts down”

    Yup, not reading that…

    I assume that at most we’re talking about a couple of asshats posting their frustration on Twitter.

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    ah yes, voting always solves fascism. its always there to stop authoritarian regimes. im 100% certain that the only way out of this dark chapter is through the ballot box.

    as history has proven time and time again!

    /s

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      America is trending towards fascism, but is not yet fascist. Yes, voting can halt that trend.

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        The OG Nazis used the US race laws as a blueprint, except they toned things down a bit because even they weren’t that racist. Make of that what you will.

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          I have heard that before, though never seen anything that actually confirms it, but it seems plausible enough. I’m just not sure what it has to do with the topic at hand. Even when America allowed slavery and didn’t allow women to vote, it was still not fascist.

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              Webster defnes it as:

              a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictoral leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition

              (Mildly edited)

              Even when America had slavery and only white male landowners could vote, it was a democracy. Not a very representative one, but a democracy nonetheless.

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                You don’t feel the system that enslaved human beings based on their race “exalts nation and race over the individual?”

                I’d say the US wasn’t fascist in that period because fascism is a post-industrial ideology that’s interrelated with corporate mass media. But, when it did come around, fascism was explicitly modeled on the “slavery + colonial genocide” era of the USA’s development. Fascism in the 20th century was the logic of colonialism coming home from the periphery to the imperial core.

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                  You may not have noticed that the definition is an AND statement, not an OR statement.

                  Is there any point to this line of discussion? What’s the end game here? You aren’t going to convince me there’s no point in voting.

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      Don’t you remember all those times they were threatening to go nuclear? A nuclear meltdown lasts ages and continues throwing off toxic byproducts the whole time.

      I think we’re underestimating the importance of encasing mega in cement and burying it under a mountain as quickly as possible.

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    He beat her by like, a percent.

    This is not a surge or indicative of a wave. Let me know when DSA candidates start winning in purple districts. Until then, allow me to remind you that Francesca Hong hates holidays including Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and the 4th of July. That’s just what I could find in her tweets, by the way.

    She also speaks with that air-y cringe fucking vtuber voice but that’s besides the point.

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      This is not a surge or indicative of a wave.

      She spent about four times as much as he did in that campaign. A big chunk of that massive funding was from AIPAC. So the result is much more impressive than the vote counts might imply in isolation.

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        If this were in a purple district, I may be inclined to agree with you.

        So far the DSA has only shown that they know how to break down Democrats. I challenge you, find me a clip of a DSA member actually being critical of another DSA member.

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      I don’t know if MAGA asshats are melting down, but you certainly are.

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        I think El-Sayed is a good candidate in a vacuum (I learned he isn’t DSA so that’s a positive, at least until they start seriously courting him) - meanwhile every single left leaning DSA news source was trying to convince me that it was going to be an omega-giga landslide victory.

        It wasn’t, you were all wrong. Francesca Hong is a fucking weirdo and so is anyone who supports her (the DSA).

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          Polls had him up by double digits. None of your imagined villains were wrong, unless we’ve got a stealth pollster here.

          But yeah, you’re certainly having a day. Enjoy your cope, weirdo.

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            Polls had him up by double digits

            Every single poll I see has him above Stevens by over 10%. Congrats on your tag.

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              What are you even trying to say here? You just reiterated my point. People thought it was going to be a blowout because the polling from multiple sources indicated it was going to be a blowout (at least relative to any highly contested race).

              And I couldn’t care less what sort of weird account notes you’re not only taking about your Lemmy experiences but desperately want to tell me about. It’s certainly doing yourself any favors on the “melting down” accusation.

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        That was true, and known, while the DSA talking heads were all claiming that it would be a landslide victory.

        It was not. Let me know when they start winning purple districts. I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you, because they won’t be winning them.

        Also holy fuck - a woman running for governor has said she wants to cancel Thanksgiving. I’m not engaging with brain damaged blue MAGA beyond shit slinging.

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          while the DSA talking heads were all claiming that it would be a landslide victory

          Talk’s cheap, but he got the result, and now you’re quibbling about the size of the margin. Even if he won by only one vote, he still won. That’s how it works.

          As the old song goes: Which side are you on?

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            I’m detailing the size of the margin because the DSA is consistently fucking wrong. Not only that, they’re completely manipulative - I want you to point to a single DSA member that has provided an actionable plan towards the things they want to see in the country. Not wishes, not ideals - policy. Because, as far as I can see, the most prominent DSA member is suggesting she wants to take ban fucking Halloween.

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          I’m really very curious as to what metrics you have for what a good democratic candidate is, except for “won the democratic primary”.

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            How about we start with not hating Thanksgiving? Or do you think that taking away holidays is a step forward for the country?

            Edit: I want you to point to a single clip of a DSA member being critical of another DSA member.

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              I couldn’t give two shits about someone’s feelings on Thanksgiving. Why do you?

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                  What does “banning” it look like? Are you really so privileged that this is your concern??

                  And to be clear, we’re talking about the woman that lost, right?