Reddit delivered strong earnings, but the numbers beneath the surface tell a different story. Slowing logged-in user growth and AI-powered search could threaten the platform's long-term value.
it’s as though Reddit is actively encouraging it’s user base and potential new users to not use the site. The search results encourage that. “here’s the answer from reddit, don’t worry, you don’t need to go there” or “you prefer old.reddit? welp you gotta sign up for that now!” or the search field that just doesn’t search the actual subreddit you’re in “you want to search for a specific window manager on unixporn? nope, here’s a result from a subreddit about cleaning windows”
Also watch your tongue on reddit! if you criticize ANYTHING that reddit has vested interest in you get a ban.
The site should be studied as a textbook example of enshitification
It’s the ultimate short term profit strategy squeeze the user experience, cash out on data licensing deals with AI companies, and act surprised when people stop showing up.
That’s been the modern world for the last 40 years. Durability is nothing compared to next-quarter profits, because if something starts to shit the bed you just move your money to something that hasn’t been ruined yet, and then make even more money ruining it.
I’m pretty sure they just see themselves as an AI training database with an annoying website attached they have to keep online to make it look like they still care
It’d be nice to have extremely niche communities that are active. I just don’t want to have bot accounts or paid propagandists on Lemmy like what Reddit currently has.
Yeah. The Facebookification of reddit is one of the things that killed it. If you make it too easy to access and use, you get more noise than signal, like people asking the same questions over and over, or cheap jokes in the comments that drown out useful ones.
I think the people that find it here are probably decent. It’s really just when money gets involved that the vultures start circling. I guess time will tell how the fediverse experiment goes
While Reddit is getting shittier by the minute, just an FYI: you can still search within a sub even if the sub tag is missing from the search bar. You need to type “subreddit:name-of-sub your-keywords”, e.g. “subreddit:funny cute dog”. I still use Reddit, because however shitty, there’s a lot of good info on it that I can’t find anywhere else (niche stuff or smaller communities). I do use a 3rd party Android client most of the times, though.
The site should be studied as a textbook example of enshitification
Exactly. Also the reason why they we’re pushing so hard to switch to new UI is that the design of the old one made it much harder to enshitify[1].
BTW: I like Lemmy and all, but I wish Usenet could become popular again. I feel like Reddit contributed somewhat to its demise to became that replacement of it.
[1] I mean in the sense to milk profit at the cost of degrading user experience, not to just to make it bad for the sake of making it bad. You can always make things worse.
I’ve always thought of the term as a specific tactic of venture capitalism not as something separate. Maybe that’s not the norm, but it’s how it is used in spaces I frequent online.
monopolies are not the only end result of capitalism, they are a common end result but if the barriers to enter the market are low enough and the incumbent corps don’t engage in regulatory capture it generally doesn’t happen.
On a long enough timeline it ends with a single company.
Because of vertical integration and a large company’s ability to operate at a loss in a specific slice to drive out any competition so they can raise prices.
If you have questions I can try to explain further.
If you’re just going to keep saying wrong things, I’m going to quickly get tired of explaining and just leave you to be wrong.
A small producer can’t meet contract requirements for commercial grocery stores and can’t just sell tomatoes individually.
But like I said if you’re just going to spout uninformed opinions and hope someone takes pity and attempts to explain it to you, you’re gonna have to find someone else, I won’t even see any other false statements you make, so there’s no way I can point out all the ways you’re wrong again.
it’s as though Reddit is actively encouraging it’s user base and potential new users to not use the site. The search results encourage that. “here’s the answer from reddit, don’t worry, you don’t need to go there” or “you prefer old.reddit? welp you gotta sign up for that now!” or the search field that just doesn’t search the actual subreddit you’re in “you want to search for a specific window manager on unixporn? nope, here’s a result from a subreddit about cleaning windows”
Also watch your tongue on reddit! if you criticize ANYTHING that reddit has vested interest in you get a ban.
The site should be studied as a textbook example of enshitification
It’s the ultimate short term profit strategy squeeze the user experience, cash out on data licensing deals with AI companies, and act surprised when people stop showing up.
That’s been the modern world for the last 40 years. Durability is nothing compared to next-quarter profits, because if something starts to shit the bed you just move your money to something that hasn’t been ruined yet, and then make even more money ruining it.
I’m pretty sure they just see themselves as an AI training database with an annoying website attached they have to keep online to make it look like they still care
Good. Hopefully reddit will get worse and drive more people to Lemmy.
I dont mean to be rude but…do we want them here? I kinda think its good as is. Sure we get some people but its been nice lately.
It’d be nice to have extremely niche communities that are active. I just don’t want to have bot accounts or paid propagandists on Lemmy like what Reddit currently has.
Exactly. We need a few more people. But not the bots, spam and B’s of reddit.
Yeah. The Facebookification of reddit is one of the things that killed it. If you make it too easy to access and use, you get more noise than signal, like people asking the same questions over and over, or cheap jokes in the comments that drown out useful ones.
I think the people that find it here are probably decent. It’s really just when money gets involved that the vultures start circling. I guess time will tell how the fediverse experiment goes
Given how we successfully resisted threads’ EEE attempt, I’d say it’s going well so far
While Reddit is getting shittier by the minute, just an FYI: you can still search within a sub even if the sub tag is missing from the search bar. You need to type “subreddit:name-of-sub your-keywords”, e.g. “subreddit:funny cute dog”. I still use Reddit, because however shitty, there’s a lot of good info on it that I can’t find anywhere else (niche stuff or smaller communities). I do use a 3rd party Android client most of the times, though.
There’s still a working 3rd party client? Which one(s)? I thought they killed them all off…
I used Joey for the longest time, but didn’t feel too comfortable using an app that’s abandoned, so I switched to Continuum.
You can just use a browser.
Exactly. Also the reason why they we’re pushing so hard to switch to new UI is that the design of the old one made it much harder to enshitify[1].
BTW: I like Lemmy and all, but I wish Usenet could become popular again. I feel like Reddit contributed somewhat to its demise to became that replacement of it.
[1] I mean in the sense to milk profit at the cost of degrading user experience, not to just to make it bad for the sake of making it bad. You can always make things worse.
Usenet. Now, there’s a bit of the old web I haven’t thought about for a very long time…
Textbook example of capitalism
People need to stop fucking acting like enshitification is a separate thing just because it has a catchy name.
Every example of “enahitification” is the normal and inevitable result of our economic system.
It is not some weird fringe aspect we can stop, it is what always happen with unregulated capitalism.
And the reason this is important enough to keep attempting to explain to people who blindly use buzzwords:
We need everyone to understand capitalism isn’t going to work
Enshittification is what people say when they have no level of marxist analysis
I’ve always thought of the term as a specific tactic of venture capitalism not as something separate. Maybe that’s not the norm, but it’s how it is used in spaces I frequent online.
monopolies are not the only end result of capitalism, they are a common end result but if the barriers to enter the market are low enough and the incumbent corps don’t engage in regulatory capture it generally doesn’t happen.
On a long enough timeline it ends with a single company.
Because of vertical integration and a large company’s ability to operate at a loss in a specific slice to drive out any competition so they can raise prices.
If you have questions I can try to explain further.
If you’re just going to keep saying wrong things, I’m going to quickly get tired of explaining and just leave you to be wrong.
look at farms and how you can get tomatoes from a large number of suppliers, if the number of suppliers goes down anyone can become a new supplier.
Not every supplier needs to be competitive on price.
No…
More Perfect Union have some good videos on that.
A small producer can’t meet contract requirements for commercial grocery stores and can’t just sell tomatoes individually.
But like I said if you’re just going to spout uninformed opinions and hope someone takes pity and attempts to explain it to you, you’re gonna have to find someone else, I won’t even see any other false statements you make, so there’s no way I can point out all the ways you’re wrong again.
you absolutely can sell tomatos to individuals, or eat them yourself.