CEOs quoted: 3 Labor leaders quoted: 0
white collar CEO attempts to sway public opinion by appealing to blue collar workers sensibilities
as slaves to your compounds? you mean.
Wait he’s not wearing a wankjacket, that’s a Jensenbot!
theres only so much AI chips, the jensenbot chassis can hold.
CEO says a thing journalism!
It annoys me to no end every single dumbass statement these idiot CEOs make is treated like news
If anyone supports billionaires after this … fuck you.
But if someone supported then until now it was ok? What exactly is the cut off point for you? Talking about plumbers?
PREDICTION: : There is going to be a harder push for the public to buy smart/AI glasses. Companies will train robots to do trade jobs by using data from smart glasses.
No vacation/sick time to pay for. No benefits to pay for. Less work for HR. No unions. No liability. Lots of dreams to sell the public that never live up to the promises. <-- this is why people hate AI, along with the data centers.
Before that prisoners will be operating machinery remotely from their cells. Then they will reintroduce debtors prison.
they will be forced to be on those electric generating bikes 24/7 eventually, chained to the bikes 24/7.
We always needed to charge for automation. McDonalds kiosks should have to pay the tax as if they were hourly workers. They would still save on the remaining wages, the sick days and leave.
I didn’t even think about taxes. Good point. I bet companies would probably also get some sort of substantial tax write off. I don’t understand the end goal of AI and robots do everything.
Ideally automation makes it so we as a people need to work less, a universal basic income is generated through the taxation of automation.
Realistically the powers that be, facists and pedos, will emable their peers to pay less for more until we battle for who gets employment.
UBI likely wont happen, since poor people make better Conservative voters, and thats what american regime wants, easy to manipulate into low-wage only jobs, added bonus of being fodder for the armed forces and LEO.
America is a force for evil, I dont expect anything decent, groundbreaking, progressive or intelligent to come out of there.
I am hopeful for countries that havemt been playing life on easy and still throwing their toys out of the pram
Jensen can go fuck himself. Gamers built nvidia and he fucks them over at the first opportunity.
Can’t wait for the “pivot” back to gaming when AI crashes
i doubt it will, since he already bought years worth of AI chips, it would take him an extremely long time to pivot back, by then he would probably lose alot of value to nvidia,
As a gamer they already lost me years ago but I urge everyone else to let them fail as a general business memorial
There are going to be other jobs when the AI take over, you can easily learn to be a plumber while us CEOs pay you peanuts
I have a relative that’s an electrician working on a DC. He’s been one it for a year and has about two years left to completion. All of the electricians that are willing and able are working weekends on overtime pay to get this done, it’s all voluntary shifts.
He was talking numbers the other day, and their company gets to keep the difference is cost on the project if they come in under budget, and they’re on track to make over 1 million on top of what they quoted. None of that is being dispersed amongst the workers, at least for now. He said they recently did their weekly dialogue where everyone gets together in a room to talk about the project, and said it was abnormally quiet. People are upset and burning out. He said they could pay everyone an extra $20k a year out of that excess, and that may turn the motivation around, but so far nothing.
My point on that is, yea, they do need as many electricians as they can get, but thanks to capitalism, it ain’t going to happen and they’re going to start losing workers. That aligns with Jensen here, because like everyone other douchebag with power, he wouldn’t be saying this if the futures didn’t looked bleak on the work force. I also don’t know if $20k a year extra will be enough to offset 60 hour weeks specifically working on DCs.
That situation sounds an awful lot like when Uber and Lyft first started enshittifying during COVID.
they enshitified long before covid.
We can take that further. It’s the core tenant of capitalism, so definitely ride share, but also most other companies. Most other companies aren’t as popular as Uber and Lyft though.
Yeah no, LLM AI companies have ridden the AI will eliminate white collar jobs trope to push sky high valuations.
You don’t get to change the narrative this deep in the bubble.
While LLM AI is useful, it won’t replace all white collar jobs. The cost of using AI to replace existing jobs is starting to hit the P&Ls of most major users and it’s too expensive even with the subsidized services these LLM AI companies are offering.
The kicker is if anyone does ever create general AI intelligence it’s going to be controversial. A general AI will basically be a conscious thinking entity. To force it to perform functions is basically enslaving a conscious thinking entity. I’m sure big business will have no problem with legalized slavery. But is that something people will tolerate once it becomes known? I’m sure there will be resistance to it.
indirectly they are eliminating, suppressing jobs via job sites, the employers are using Ai to screen out even more applicants than before, more than like AI will survive as a resume/cv screening tool in the end , albeit much smaller than it is now eventually, because they would use expensive software to do it, now with ai can just eliminate large batches of resume faster.
Not to agree with him but… They already are and have been for a while?
He is desperately rhetorically flailing, trying to pitch the idea that temporary demand in construction of data centers = job creation.
Despite that the entire point of an AI data center is to automate away 100x to 100,000x as many jobs, permanently, as will actually exist for maybe 18 months, to build the thing.
Its a nakedly bad faith line of bullshit, literally insultingly stupid to anyone that’s taken a year of macro econ.
Even if you build the datacenters, … the amount of power needed for them would be roughly equivalent to building the entire electrical power infrastructure of Germany, and that would need to be done in 18 months.
Conpletely impossible, that’s like 10 years of the world’s current production rate of power transformers, in 18 months.
These guys would need a top down command economy and 5 year plans to do this, and they do not have that, so they’re basically just pretending they do. When it becomes evident that they were bullshitting, they’ll try to say ‘well thats how things should have been the whole time, with me in charge of everything!’
Delusional.
plus the trades will be saturated in the schools if they tried this and would depress wages.
While I sort of agree with you that that is his angle, service jobs that aren’t easily automatable will continue to climb in the “job stability and pay rate” category until the world figures out how to deal with Baumol’s Cost Disease:
What do you mean ‘deal with Baulmol’s cost disease’?
You mean general, broad inflation, right?
You’re worried that non-automatable low wages jobs will continue to be non-automatable low wage jobs, but slightly less low wage?
You’re worried that jobs tend to need to be done by people who can afford to be alive?
When I was 16-22ish, I knew everything. I was sure of it. I had it all figured out. Everyone was an idiot except me. I tried giving everyone advice because I had the best advice.
Then reality kicked me in the ass and brought me down a couple pegs and I realized that I was so incredibly wrong. I’m just a guy with limited knowledge and the world and universe is so vast and different that no one can “know it all” or even come remotely close.
I’m so thankful for that. Otherwise I’d be a fucking moron with a dumb leather jacket waxing poetic about skilled trades as I pretend that next word guessing chatbots are the pinnacle of humanity’s creation.
The thing is, if the future is all datacenters, yes we’re gonna need electricians and plumbers. But this is a future I want to help prevent at all costs. So look at me purposefully not being an electrician or plumber
Wouldn’t you be able to prevent it better by just being a bad plumber?
A militant serial plumber sabotaging data centers throughout the world… I’d watch that
yeah no. one of the reasons plumbers or electricians generally do well is because their field isn’t saturated with plumbers and electricians. hundreds of thousands of each means salaries of said jobs will go down. thus nothing changes. Add to the fact both jobs A. require trade schooling and B. apprenticeships. Also they’re pretty much all unionized which you also have to get into. it would never fly, it could never fly unless you do away with trade schools, apprenticeships, and unions which leaves you with unqualified under paid plumbers and electricians.
This fucking leather jacket wearing mouth breather needs a strong reality check. preferably one that adds another hole to his head.
I wonder how long it will take for shareholders to experiment with replacing CEOs with agentic AIs. They’d certainly be good at spouting crap like Jensen is doing.
Point of a CEO is that there’s one public person for everyone to hate that can be given an even more hated golden parachute if shit goes down. You can’t do this with AI. Replacing AI with AI doesn’t have the same effect on people even if it has the same effect in reality
You don’t want to replace them as that has legal issues. But an AI being backseat driver and evaluating their decisions and check what the consequences would be to report that to investors is also very useful.
Don’t antropomorphize AI!
An AI doesn’t evaluate anything, an AI doesn’t check for consequences. All AI does is predicting the next word.
Do I take the car to the carwash or do i walk?
If it’s only 300m away, you should walk
Sure, now predict the future please *facepalm*
The carwash thing applies to low end models and older models. Here’s Claude from lowest to highest model, ignoring the banned Fable
They altered the training data to address this challenge. The underlying issue wasn’t solved in any way. Don’t be naive.
Takes months to train a model, there were already models that got it right when the question was popular, as long as thinking was enabled.
Also if they were optimising for this question, why not update their lower end model (Haiku) as well?
The interesting question would be what percent of humans get it wrong. Smaller than LLMs for sure, but I somehow doubt it’s 0.
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