• Mereo@lemmy.ca
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    17 hours ago

    Basically Apple will be building the perfect computers to run local LLMs.

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      16 hours ago

      One can only hope that it totally breaks the AI/LLM at industrial scale, so businesses can run their own AI systems with their own data sets.

      No more of this fucking datacanter horseshit.

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        16 hours ago

        It’s pretty obvious at this point that the data centers are for storing massive amounts of video.

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        Local LLMs are cool but also pretty slow compared to cloud. If you have to wait half an hour for your Feature while coding you might still opt for the cloud agent.

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          11 hours ago

          Yes, they are slower. However, I think that the pricing we’re going to see from the cloud providers might be enough to deter quite a lot of people. At least I hope so:

          The fact that we’re already used to blazing speed generation kinda sucks. Local models are a much more sustainable way of unlocking the benefits of LLMs than giant ecosystem- and community-destroying data centers.

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            I also hope that don’t get me wrong, but as I said: Waiting for the LLM agent to finish coding is currently a bottleneck in software development, they don’t pay high salaries for watching the AI code, they will prefer faster agents even if they are expensive, because they are not only paying the AI Company but also the software engineer overseeing them.

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              I think that is only going to last as long as the AI providers are willing to operate at a loss. The issue is even with the newer higher price points rolled out this year, they’re still losing money. The slower AI machines may be the answer once the REAL profit earning price for the use tokens hits the market. I forsee lots of alternative work going on while the small LLM’s are cooking the data. We will have to see once these machines start to roll out, what the use for LLMs will be and how it’s applied. I am hopeful.

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            13 hours ago

            Yes ofc I ran Gemma 4 for example, but compare that to the speed of Gemini in the cloud the difference is massive.

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              11 hours ago

              How much RAM do you have and which version of the model did you run?

              Local LLMs can be just as fast as long your device clears the requirements. If you noticed a huge difference, there’s a really good chance that you tried to use a model that requires more RAM than you have

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                8 hours ago

                I ran Gemma 4 31 B quantized so it fits in my RAM. The decoding speed was decent, but if you look at the newest models for example Gemini flash 3.5 they have a decoding speed of 280 token per second, they generate an entire page before my Mac locally generates a sentence.

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                  7 hours ago

                  That is a bit too much for your hardware, even the Q4_0. You needed a smaller version (26B likely would suit you better. It would be faster and is a MoE)

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          Actually they can be much faster given sufficient VRAM and not a lot of concurrent users.