• FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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    22 hours ago

    Don’t pretend Israel has any intention of keeping Gaza intact. That’s bullshit. Palestine has been shrinking for decades, and Israel explicitly supported the new US Admin whose stance is “death or exodus”. They don’t believe in Palestine’s right to exist, they want to eradicate them.

    There is even leaked intel that the Israeli admin knew the music festival attack was coming and did nothing to stop it.

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      22 hours ago

      Nothing I wrote supports the assertion that “israel has any intention of keeping Gaza intact”.

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        22 hours ago

        (e.g., “it has the right to exist as a Gaza-sized enclave in the area of present day Tel-Aviv, subjected to the same conditions currently applied by Israel to Gaza").

        The conditions applied to Gaza by Isreal do NOT respect its right to exist.

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          22 hours ago

          I specifically brought up this fictional horror scenario as an example of genocidal thinking, with the intent precisely to distinguish between the fictional “right to exist” of a state and the very real “right to exist” of a people.

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            17 hours ago

            Interestingly enough, it was argued many times over by Plato in his writings that the purpose of having a family, getting married, etc. is the value it would bring to the State.

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              16 hours ago

              Plato was writing about the Polis. That is a much different polity and a much different socio-cultural milieu that any kind of mass modern nation-state.