• FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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    22 hours ago

    (e.g., “it has the right to exist as a Gaza-sized enclave in the area of present day Tel-Aviv, subjected to the same conditions currently applied by Israel to Gaza").

    The conditions applied to Gaza by Isreal do NOT respect its right to exist.

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      22 hours ago

      I specifically brought up this fictional horror scenario as an example of genocidal thinking, with the intent precisely to distinguish between the fictional “right to exist” of a state and the very real “right to exist” of a people.

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        17 hours ago

        Interestingly enough, it was argued many times over by Plato in his writings that the purpose of having a family, getting married, etc. is the value it would bring to the State.

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          16 hours ago

          Plato was writing about the Polis. That is a much different polity and a much different socio-cultural milieu that any kind of mass modern nation-state.