So if we celebrated hitler’s death we lack humanity? People should be free to celebrate a death if they feel to. Forcing your idea of a moral code over people is not nice. We are not talking about celebrating violence, a crime or wishing for somebody’s death.
People should be free to express their feelings if they don’t hurt anyone, without having to fear the morality police. The point of modorators should be to create a welcoming and safe space, not to impose your morality on others.
Yes, and you could have answered “thanks for your input, but we are going to stick with our rules because we have our reasons”, instead you basically tell me “Doesn’t matter what you think, these are the rules and you must respect them. No discussion allowed”. I mean sure, you make the rules, but the way you enforce them and react to criticism speaks for itself.
I think the larger point is maybe you shouldn’t be allowed to, because you’ve admitted to arbitrarily suspending that rule when someone YOU are fine celebrating dies, like Kissinger.
OK, so a better way to phrase that would be that the collective “you” has no business enforcing a rule that “you” decided not to enforce against yourselves, because “you” happened to agree with the death.
Dodging questions is a bad look, especially ones that illustrate your point is flawed. I would just say no, it’s only “loaded” if you’re position isn’t defendable
It’s been answered. People are going to try to pick it apart because they don’t like it. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t answered. You’re free to celebrate death, just not here.
It might help you understand WHY you’re getting ratioed if you understand this:
Lindsay Graham was basically a serial killer who used votes rather than knives.
Imagine a serial killer murdered someone you love. Wouldn’t you cheer when you find out he’s died? Wouldn’t you be happy he is dead and no longer able to harm others the way he harmed your loved one?
That’s how we feel about Graham dying. That’s what we’re celebrating. Graham is the serial killer who murdered our mama, and we’re happy to see him die.
Jordan doesn’t read anything that proves him wrong, he’s even linked articles that disagree with his views, and then banned people who pointed that out.
I have empathy for the people whose lives were made miserable by republican policies graham championed and I celebrate one less champion of those policies fucking people over
There’s a big difference between Kissinger and Graham, I mentioned this in another reply, but it bears repeating…
Kissinger had the power and ability to act alone in his atrocities.
Graham, as a member of the Senate, did not have that ability. Whatever evils he enacted, he was able to do so with the consent of a majority of the House, Senate and President.
Kissinger did what he wanted, Graham literally could not on his own.
Not saying he did good things, he was a complete tool, but a majority of the Legislative branch signed off on the things he did. Not the same thing at all.
he was able to do so with the consent of a majority of the House, Senate and President.
So he was still a bad person but also other people agreed with him and enabled him to do bad stuff
This is like saying “Jeff was not a bad person, they would restrain him so he couldn’t kill, while Josh was a very bad person because he could kill without restriction”
So if we celebrated hitler’s death we lack humanity? People should be free to celebrate a death if they feel to. Forcing your idea of a moral code over people is not nice. We are not talking about celebrating violence, a crime or wishing for somebody’s death.
People should be free to express their feelings if they don’t hurt anyone, without having to fear the morality police. The point of modorators should be to create a welcoming and safe space, not to impose your morality on others.
Doesn’t matter if you think it’s “nice” or not. It’s a rule for this community.
Yes, and you could have answered “thanks for your input, but we are going to stick with our rules because we have our reasons”, instead you basically tell me “Doesn’t matter what you think, these are the rules and you must respect them. No discussion allowed”. I mean sure, you make the rules, but the way you enforce them and react to criticism speaks for itself.
I don’t make the rules here, but I do enforce them.
Right, “you were just doing your job” …
Also known as the nazi defense.
Out of curiosity who does make the rules? You’re a moderator right? Doesn’t that mean you make the rules or at least contribute to them?
The original creator of Politics created the rules and invited me, and others to help moderate the rules they created.
Looking at this comment section, you are clearly NOT enforcing them.
Is it a bannable offense or not?
At the time I shut down last night, I didn’t see anything bannable. Going through comments now, but doing my replies first. 😉
You might as well, since you decide to ban everyone you don’t like. And get away with it by the admins never touching you.
No, I don’t. Case in point, you’re still here, right?
I remove posts and comments that break the rules, and I ban people for cause.
I think the larger point is maybe you shouldn’t be allowed to, because you’ve admitted to arbitrarily suspending that rule when someone YOU are fine celebrating dies, like Kissinger.
It was a mutual decision, not mine alone.
I believe the exact quote was “Yeah, rule 6, but fuck that guy.”
OK, so a better way to phrase that would be that the collective “you” has no business enforcing a rule that “you” decided not to enforce against yourselves, because “you” happened to agree with the death.
“nanana boo boo”
You should answer the question posed though…
Disingenuous questions don’t get answers. Ask a question in good faith and I’ll answer it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question
Dodging questions is a bad look, especially ones that illustrate your point is flawed. I would just say no, it’s only “loaded” if you’re position isn’t defendable
When did you stop beating your significant other?
See how that works? Hey, I’m just asking questions…
Never started, next question?
It’s been answered. People are going to try to pick it apart because they don’t like it. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t answered. You’re free to celebrate death, just not here.
No, no, you don’t get it. It’s not about being nice, it’s about telegraphing what a good, nonthreatening supplicant you are
I already said he was an asshole and cited the reason, that’s not supplication.
You don’t have to celebrate death to prove you aren’t a supplicant. 😉
It might help you understand WHY you’re getting ratioed if you understand this:
Lindsay Graham was basically a serial killer who used votes rather than knives.
Imagine a serial killer murdered someone you love. Wouldn’t you cheer when you find out he’s died? Wouldn’t you be happy he is dead and no longer able to harm others the way he harmed your loved one?
That’s how we feel about Graham dying. That’s what we’re celebrating. Graham is the serial killer who murdered our mama, and we’re happy to see him die.
I love how they just ignore this extremely well said criticism and just keep spamming this “human decency” angle
Jordan doesn’t read anything that proves him wrong, he’s even linked articles that disagree with his views, and then banned people who pointed that out.
You wrote the words “basic humanity” as if that was supposed to make sense as a justification for a rule. Don’t think we’ve seen a reason.
Reason enough for people with basic human empathy.
I have empathy for the people whose lives were made miserable by republican policies graham championed and I celebrate one less champion of those policies fucking people over
Would you react the same if he killed directly instead of indirectly?
There’s a big difference between Kissinger and Graham, I mentioned this in another reply, but it bears repeating…
Kissinger had the power and ability to act alone in his atrocities.
Graham, as a member of the Senate, did not have that ability. Whatever evils he enacted, he was able to do so with the consent of a majority of the House, Senate and President.
Kissinger did what he wanted, Graham literally could not on his own.
Not saying he did good things, he was a complete tool, but a majority of the Legislative branch signed off on the things he did. Not the same thing at all.
So he was still a bad person but also other people agreed with him and enabled him to do bad stuff
This is like saying “Jeff was not a bad person, they would restrain him so he couldn’t kill, while Josh was a very bad person because he could kill without restriction”
I said almost the exact same thing.