most forums before Digg and Reddit did have rules

Usenet certainly didn’t, nor does the web in the grand scale. Enforcement was weak.

would remain technically on the systems you are referring to

Nope, it would have to be removed just like always. True of new systems, too.

So the child porn still remains present, effectively.

Compulsory legal compliance still exists: it’s the free, open internet. Did you know laws existed before, too?

Ada

Don’t know about that. I think the brief descriptions on websites like nostr.com did a good enough job: there’s not much to get.

It’s a protocol, not a platform. There’s no global moderation/censorship just like there isn’t on the whole internet. Relay operators have full discretion over the content available on their relays: if they want to do more than the bare minimum, they can. Clients are free to subscribe to other relays or multiple. It’s technically free association rather than anti-moderation.

A user can choose to see only the content of followed users: that should eliminate most unwanted content. Apart from that, there’s no perfect moderation solution even on centralized platforms, so there isn’t here.

Client-side filtering remains the best approach for those who care. It doesn’t have to be manual as I mentioned before.

I recall earlier days of the internet when no one gave a fuck about this, and internet rage was just entertaining, easily ignored nonsense. Then it became eternal September, and tightass n00bs started acting like moderating the entire internet & foisting their dumbass expectations on everyone made perfect sense without ever having to learn the zen of not giving a fuck. That was the start of when it all turned to shit.

I’m lost. If a mod removes child porn on NOSTR, it removes it for everyone, right?

No moderators. A relay operator can remove it from their relay. There’s any number of relays. It’s roughly like usenet with respect to server-side content removal.

Strange to ask me when authoritative information is public online. Seems you don’t know much about nostr.

And if they can remove that, they can remove anything.

That’s why there’s no limit on the number of relays (events usually publish to multiple) or subscriptions to them (clients usually subscribe to multiple).

unpleasant time here if you loath all moderation

Still off topic, and the moderators here aren’t reddit moderator scum so far. The modlog offers decent transparency.

Why is that better?

User control & flexibility > illegitimate authority. Also, I remember an earlier, untamed, unrulier, more subversive internet than this corporate-friendly crap: it was funner.

any community anywhere online still needs to remove CSAM and gore and other things.

Legal compliance is different from legally unnecessary moderation.

Because a hashtag under a no-moderation concept could still be hijacked.

Not really: Nostr content is cryptographically signed. User’s client subscribes to some content curators who post as signed events their tags for other events. The client processes these tagging events to filter according to the user’s preferences.

Some proposals already exist:

• Reporting
• Moderated Communities (Reddit Style)

the fediverse will never be what you want it to be

Not the topic of discussion, which is function & protocol.

Yup, better. Moderation should be opt-in & is better handled at the client: the user could opt-in to a “moderation community” that publishes tags their client would follow. Such curation for anyone who wants that is a better idea. Far better than moderators we don’t get to choose.

So there are no moderation tools / whitelist/blacklists?

This is a good thing: bitchasses need to learn words are harmless & they can ignore them like humanity has done for millennia. It’s not built into the servers. Client-side tooling would handle it, so it’s entirely at the discretion of the user, which seems better to me.