• brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    It’s a rigged game though. Mozilla’s struggling to even implement feature parity with the income they have, and being “good” isn’t going to place redirects to install Chrome over half of people’s phones and web browsing.


    …Personally, I think Mozilla should dump Firefox.

    And put everything they have into Ladybird, or maybe Apple’s WebKit.

    Mozilla are playing a rigged game, and the only way to survive is get out of Google’s grasp. Practically, that means joining some other entity who already has dev money and a good project.

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      4 hours ago

      Because they waste the income they have on crap like adding AI, and CEO bonuses/raises.

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      Mozilla might as well just close up shop. If they were to abandon Firefox, what exactly are they bring to the table for anyone else?

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        7 hours ago

        The brand, development power, and bits from the Firefox codebase they could re-use.

        More importantly, Firefox’s devs get to work on something that already has leverage in an ecosystem, eg WebKit for Apple or Ladybird for Linux.

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          Developers can just be hired directly, and the Firefox codebase is open source.

          Only brand requires partnering with mozilla, and what does the other partner gain from the Mozilla brand? They don’t even have much brand recognition anymore anyway.

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            7 hours ago

            I ninja edited, but basically I just don’t see Firefox surviving without “ecosystem leverage” like WebKit, which is permanently embedded in the Apple ecosystem.

            Or even Ladybird, which I imagine will be a permanent fixture on Linux systems.

            So… however they organize it, Mozilla should take their browser dev experience there. But maybe they could keep Firefox the brand alive, and automatically shift users to whatever the new rendering engine will be.


            Alternatively I guess Firefox could stay Mozilla and just adopt WebKit or Ladybird’s engine. “Merge” development efforts across different teams, so to speak, but keep the browser frontend separate.

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              6 hours ago

              Its a bit early to make the call that Ladybird will be successful. They have made a lot of noise sure, but they are a small team, tackling a huge project, and they have just had 2 language changes in the last few months.

              The deck is well and truely stacked against them. Maybe they pull it off, maybe not, but its very early to make the call IMO.

              Servo is looking surprisingly good, but still has major rendering issues. At least it looks like a browser now.