Has anyone actually tried a genuine rollout of data centers? Eg no lying about bringing in jobs, no cheating the energy grid, no building loud data centers near homes, don’t paint people as idiot luddites for opposing AI.
I wonder how different sentiments about data centers would be if the people building them weren’t pathological. Probably not good, but having a punkass showman leading the way seems like self-sabotauge.
People have been building them normally for decades. They just used to be regular industrial buildings in industrial-zoned areas and required only minor grid upgrades.
The scale of the new stuff makes it pathological. You cant be a good guy if your hyperscaler is the size of a small town and uses as much power and water as a state.
Kind of a double fuck in these rollouts at the moment. 1. Is the reckless build out. All the things you mentioned. 2. Is the explicit goal of using to shoot working class power, and create “algorythimc governace” and “ubiquitous policing”.
In countries where the government is responsible and new data centers have to go through the regulatory consent process and address the public’s concerns around noise levels, water usage and grid prices there is still opposition from the public. I think* because of how big of an issue it is in America. America is a megaphone to a lot of the world so the issues spill over and the average person doesnt really seem to know what they’re mad about.
Has anyone actually tried a genuine rollout of data centers? Eg no lying about bringing in jobs, no cheating the energy grid, no building loud data centers near homes, don’t paint people as idiot luddites for opposing AI.
I wonder how different sentiments about data centers would be if the people building them weren’t pathological. Probably not good, but having a punkass showman leading the way seems like self-sabotauge.
People have been building them normally for decades. They just used to be regular industrial buildings in industrial-zoned areas and required only minor grid upgrades.
The scale of the new stuff makes it pathological. You cant be a good guy if your hyperscaler is the size of a small town and uses as much power and water as a state.
Kind of a double fuck in these rollouts at the moment. 1. Is the reckless build out. All the things you mentioned. 2. Is the explicit goal of using to shoot working class power, and create “algorythimc governace” and “ubiquitous policing”.
Its a sinister combo
In countries where the government is responsible and new data centers have to go through the regulatory consent process and address the public’s concerns around noise levels, water usage and grid prices there is still opposition from the public. I think* because of how big of an issue it is in America. America is a megaphone to a lot of the world so the issues spill over and the average person doesnt really seem to know what they’re mad about.
This is how it was most of the time for decades before the LLM/transformer model FOMO speculative investment
As someone from a highly industrial area, it was not.