• Seralth@piefed.seralth.com
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    Funfact, If you punch someone in the face. Just because you promised to stop doesn’t mean shit till you prove it. And proving it takes time.

    Its not a impossiable line in the sand unless your a moron who doesn’t have a concept of time and what it takes to rebuild actual trust.

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      If we have punched you in the face, why are you not punching back instead of whining about lost trust?

      It’s a serious question. Why are you not protecting your own national interests – finally – instead of relying on the US to do it for you?

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        Dude i AM an American, My entire family and myself have served in some capacity either directly or indriectly to help this nation, its interests and has a history deeply tied all the way back to the revolutionary war. Protecting our national interests and morals is something that my family has been doing for generations even when they where less then ideal interests and morals because of the belief that our home is worth protecting and fighting for.

        It doesn’t matter what side of the border you are on. If you think its fucking reasonable to demand trust and forgiveness instantly on cheap words alone. Then you are a god damn child who needs to grow the actual fuck up. An adult can actually understand that if you fucking hit someone repeatedly and and abuse them. They won’t trust you after. Because that is how people work. It doesn’t matter if you defend them from other bullies, or help them when they are down. If all you also abuse them along the way.

        America has been nothing but an abusive partner defending and providing aid with one hand, while threatening and harming with the other. For decades now, it was only our absolute iron grip on large chunks of the global economy and codependency we curated that tied countries to us. Now that many of those ties have loosened others are standing on their own two feet and trying to have an actual healthy relationship with the USA, or distancing from us entirely. Which IS their choice. They owe us NOTHING.

        No country owes another country ANYTHING but the respect its due. And when the USA can prove it deserves that respect again THEN we can start bitching we arn’t getting it. But we arn’t there right now.

      • FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world
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        You’re a child

        We don’t rely on the US to keep us safe

        We are pissed off that your stupid desire to interfere in the rest of the world for the benefit of a few billionaires makes everything less safe for everyone

        So roll that idea that the US is some global influence for safety into a tight little ball, soak it in the oil of all the wars that 'Murica wanted to keep control of the flow of cheap fuel (your fuel is cheap, you’re just used to shitty vehicles and an utter lack of awareness about the rest of the world) and shove it waaaaaay up your arsehole

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          Lol I hit a big fat nerve, didn’t I. You’re not even making sense.

          idea that the US is some global influence for safety

          That’s your delusion, not mine. And it’s over. You’re screaming at someone who does NOT want to interfere in the world, and you’ll find that the progressives that just won last night don’t either. Whatever arrangements you had, it’s over.

          The old world order is OVER. Point your ire at your own corrupt government, which going by your spelling of your character is the UK. If so, you got NO leg to stand on, son. How’s that special relationship working out for you? How’s Brexit these days? And why are you yelling at one person online when your problem is with your own government, who sold you down the river for American promises? Lol, you need a mirror.

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        Try not reframing someone else’s argument to prop up a US-reliant narrative like the rest of the colonialists. The entire world full of humans relies on cooperation and trust between allies. I don’t think “shouldn’t have relied on us” is a good narrative, nor is your idea the US is somehow overspending its resources helping the world instead its own people, it most certainly isn’t and never has, capitalists have fucked allies and countrymen alike for profit.

        If a dear friend punches you in the face, don’t ask why not punch back, think about healing and making sure it doesn’t happen again.