And don’t forget to disband ICE. Preferably roll back all valid functions of DHS to other government departments and close down that too. It was never necessary or even beneficial.
DHS has always been a fascist overreach disband the agency and return the agencies currently under DHS and put them back where they belong, coast guard back to the military, secret service back to Treasury dept and so on
Maybe put them back on the borders checking bags for smuggled cheese. The primary duty they were trained for. How they went from that to secret police is wild.
I’m curious to see how you think the Democrats are going to unilaterally disband ICE when the President would have to sign that law (he won’t) and he could really just reorganize another bureaucracy to do the same horrific ICE shit under a different label.
Twenty five upvotes for you and what you’ve described is literally impossible. Congrats to the whole team.
They can’t get rid of it without being able to pass legislation, but they can decide to not fund it, or just fund border protection activities exclusively. So, when their current funding runs out, new funding has to come from Congress. They can choose to just not.
Money. Remove the funding. Make them run on the smallest budget to where operations are severely hampered or outright abandoned. Pass laws that severely hamper their control and start impeaching federal judges that don’t uphold the law. At least public exposure of the corruption and consistent public lambasting of Republicans that block justice may fire people up.
It’s not perfect, but it would do something to dampen it. It’s not going to be a light switch change. Nothing can be a light switch change. It’s easier to destroy than it is to build/fix.
He can, but then it can get kicked back to Congress for another vote that then requires 2/3 of the Senate and House to pass. If Republicans still don’t play ball, Dems can, and should, continue to be veeeeeeeeeery vocal about this is what the people want and once again the Rs are not governing of the people, by the people, or for the people.
We have to take out the people at the top for the illegal orders, but I do actually think it’s just as important to take out the people at the bottom who followed them.
Make following illegal orders a liability and we’ll have another layer of protection from this bullshit.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. Historical precedent, Trump first this happened. It just stopped the extreme bullshit and speed of execution. Pretty much no one got held accountable in any meaningful way
Until the Dems purge the olds Dems, the ones that support the billionaire class. I’m not as hopeful that anything will improve. We’re just back to stalling and nothing changing for the better or worse
Uh… about 1600 people were charged and over 1200 were convicted of crimes related to the Jan 6 insurrection.
Trump pardoned them all on his first day in office. With a Republican-controlled congress that wasn’t inclined to do anything to stop him. But saying nothing happened is a ridiculous over-simplification.
Well if they hadn’t sat on their asses for four years and charged and convicted Trump, he wouldn’t have had a chance to even run for office in 2024. Instead they waited until after he’d already won the Republican nomination just months before the election to bring charges.
They could have also done something with all the Epstein files that they’ve possessed this entire time, but instead here we are nearly 8 years from Epstein’s arrest and they’re still being hidden and the only person who’s even been prosecuted was the woman who worked for him.
Yay! Literally yay! Imprison them all. Every single one.
And don’t forget to disband ICE. Preferably roll back all valid functions of DHS to other government departments and close down that too. It was never necessary or even beneficial.
DHS has always been a fascist overreach disband the agency and return the agencies currently under DHS and put them back where they belong, coast guard back to the military, secret service back to Treasury dept and so on
Maybe put them back on the borders checking bags for smuggled cheese. The primary duty they were trained for. How they went from that to secret police is wild.
I’m curious to see how you think the Democrats are going to unilaterally disband ICE when the President would have to sign that law (he won’t) and he could really just reorganize another bureaucracy to do the same horrific ICE shit under a different label.
Twenty five upvotes for you and what you’ve described is literally impossible. Congrats to the whole team.
They can’t get rid of it without being able to pass legislation, but they can decide to not fund it, or just fund border protection activities exclusively. So, when their current funding runs out, new funding has to come from Congress. They can choose to just not.
Money. Remove the funding. Make them run on the smallest budget to where operations are severely hampered or outright abandoned. Pass laws that severely hamper their control and start impeaching federal judges that don’t uphold the law. At least public exposure of the corruption and consistent public lambasting of Republicans that block justice may fire people up.
It’s not perfect, but it would do something to dampen it. It’s not going to be a light switch change. Nothing can be a light switch change. It’s easier to destroy than it is to build/fix.
Can’t Trump simply veto any such laws?
He can, but then it can get kicked back to Congress for another vote that then requires 2/3 of the Senate and House to pass. If Republicans still don’t play ball, Dems can, and should, continue to be veeeeeeeeeery vocal about this is what the people want and once again the Rs are not governing of the people, by the people, or for the people.
Yes but these people don’t feel the need to be restricted by reality.
Perhaps impossible unilaterally, but worth bringing up. We’ve already seen how powerful online conversations can be.
He wouldn’t anyway, ICE is attached to Palantir and Palantir supports mostly dems
And before anyone says “what about the–” the answer is yes, arrest and imprison in accordance with the law, regardless of party affiliation
We have to take out the people at the top for the illegal orders, but I do actually think it’s just as important to take out the people at the bottom who followed them.
Make following illegal orders a liability and we’ll have another layer of protection from this bullshit.
Nothing will happen.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. Historical precedent, Trump first this happened. It just stopped the extreme bullshit and speed of execution. Pretty much no one got held accountable in any meaningful way
Until the Dems purge the olds Dems, the ones that support the billionaire class. I’m not as hopeful that anything will improve. We’re just back to stalling and nothing changing for the better or worse
Yep. If nothing happened after J6, definitely nothing will happen now.
Uh… about 1600 people were charged and over 1200 were convicted of crimes related to the Jan 6 insurrection.
Trump pardoned them all on his first day in office. With a Republican-controlled congress that wasn’t inclined to do anything to stop him. But saying nothing happened is a ridiculous over-simplification.
Well if they hadn’t sat on their asses for four years and charged and convicted Trump, he wouldn’t have had a chance to even run for office in 2024. Instead they waited until after he’d already won the Republican nomination just months before the election to bring charges.
They could have also done something with all the Epstein files that they’ve possessed this entire time, but instead here we are nearly 8 years from Epstein’s arrest and they’re still being hidden and the only person who’s even been prosecuted was the woman who worked for him.