• Sanctus@anarchist.nexus
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    2 days ago

    This whole shit is just wild. The state shouldn’t be murdering people. This chick brought home a chunk from the skull of the girl she killed. And now the state is fucking up so hard you can’t help but feel bad for her because we as empathetic people dont like suffering. Fucken rollercoaster.

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      1 day ago

      At 18 I probably would’ve done some equally fucked up shit. Murdering people for what they did before their brains finished developing is not only a waste of money but it gives the government absolute control over who lives and dies when I don’t even trust the government to fill potholes correctly.

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      2 days ago

      Not to mention the conditions leading up to this could have been partially the fault of the state as well. Not saying people don’t have accountability for their own actions, but in the United States our mental health care is abysmal. So realistically, it’s a failure of the state coming and going. Yet all these groups are ready and willing to worship the state.

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        The story we have been told has a group of young adults going into the woods to smoke weed together. And then her murdering someone in a violent manner (stabbing over and over)… which very well could have been planned. Modern studies are starting to show that marijuana is tied to people having psychotic breaks in people with bipolar disorders. Which she was diagnosed as bipolar… So it could be completely unrelated… but this situation would be even more horrible if someday we find out she did infact have a psychotic break and none of it had been planned.

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      2 days ago

      And now the state is fucking up so hard you can’t help but feel bad for her

      I definitely don’t feel bad for her. What she just experienced wasn’t nearly as awful as what she made her victim experience. Oh, and she’s still alive, unlike her victim.

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          2 days ago

          Would you say this about any criminal, regardless of the offense?

          I’m not trying to argue anything. It’s a subject I’ve been thinking about lately and have debated with myself over the extent of this.

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            Its a complicated subject for me especially since I am just a nerd and not a law expert. Unfortunately for her the entire nation has been intimately inundated with her case, which is probably why I feel I can give my opinion. All said, I think I would, I would like to say I would. Torture is not anything that accomplishes something, its pure sadism.

            What she and her cohorts did sickens me to the bone, as a many great things today do. But she still shouldn’t be tortured. It fixes nothing and warps the minds of its perpetrators. It is the hammer that turns all humans into nails, just not good.

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          2 days ago

          I agree that it isn’t necessary and I think we should use methods far more instant and guaranteed for the death penalty. Still doesn’t make me feel bad for her though.

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            2 days ago

            Dark future, indeed. The State should never have the right to murder anybody. The only person who should be able to decide if your life ends early is you.

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      2 days ago

      Two added notes:

      1. That piece of skull is still in the custody of the state, and they refuse to return it to the victim’s family even through multiple lawsuits, so they aren’t even doing this for the victim’s family’s “closure” or whatever the line usually is in defense or the death penalty.
      2. Use of sexist language to describe women, even violent criminals, is still sexism.