• dhork@lemmy.worldEnglish
    68·
    2 days ago

    This is not a new idea in Conservative circles. I remember having debates wih people 30 years ago, who voted for goobers like Bob Dole, George Pataki and Al D’Amato, who insisted that the rights in the Bill of Rights only applied to citizens, and foreigners in our country had no rights whatsoever.

    And since Trump has decided that Omar’s citizenship application is fraudulent, in his mind she never was a citizen, so is subject to the same treatment.

    You see? It makes total sense, if you’re a xenophobic moron!

    • Kirp123@lemmy.world
      22·
      2 days ago

      "The right of the people to be… "

      “No person shall be held to answer…”

      “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall…”

      And so on.

      I don’t see a single mention of citizen in there, only the people, person, the accused which are words that can refer to anyone citizen or not.

    • Nollij@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      6·
      2 days ago

      The idea of non-citizens having different rights (not none, but a very different set) is pretty well-established. But the courts have also long upheld that it’s all or nothing. Once you become a citizen, you have all of those rights. If you renounce, you lose them all. There is very little wiggle room on the subject.

      Trump decided she wasn’t a citizen long before there was any question of fraud. That happened the moment she refused to kneel to him. The rest is just about how he can reach his goal of destroying anyone that would challenge him.

  • Eternal192@anarchist.nexusEnglish
    19·
    2 days ago

    Isn’t he “technically” an immigrant child? His grandfather was German, right? Soo by Trump logic he himself doesn’t have rights.

      • peopleproblems@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 days ago

        Unfortunately. The Heritage Foundation goes back to at least the early 1800s, but thats where things get murky. A direct line of people can connect Trump to Anthony Comstock.

        Trump -> Roy Cohn -> Joseph McCarthy -> J. Edgar Hoover -> Anthony Comstock (although I can’t seem to figure out if Hoover and Comstock ever actually met).

    • ElDuderino@lemmus.orgEnglish
      8·
      2 days ago

      It really baffles fascists to learn that the constitution has never just protected citizens.

  • xxce2AAb@feddit.dk
    12·
    2 days ago

    Well, to be fair, he doesn’t think any other American citizen has constitutional rights either.

  • Blibly@lemmy.world
    12·
    2 days ago

    I suggest Trump is a traitor and seditionist and should receive a just punishment as laid out in the Constitution.

  • Pavidus@lemmy.world
    8·
    2 days ago

    Honest question, because this argument seems pretty fucking dumb. Is there not a process to vet and verify representatives? I would think that any crazy shit in their background would be found pretty quickly upon accepting the job.

    I mean, I get that a shitload of people have worked for this administration while ignoring their background or qualifications. In those instances, it was ignored because they wanted to. In this case, they are specifically out to get her.

    • bw42@lemmy.world
      4·
      2 days ago

      To be a Representative in the House you have to be at least 25 years old, a citizen for 7 years, and live in the state you’re elected.

    • some_designer_dude@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      “Excuse me, but aren’t there rules and procedures for this?” will echo through time as the most impotent question ever asked.

  • kylie_kraft@lemmy.world
    7·
    2 days ago

    Melania Trump doesn’t have constitutional rights

    Elon Musk doesn’t have constitutional rights

    keep it going

  • mkwt@lemmy.world
    7·
    2 days ago

    If there is any class or category of people who have no rights, then no one has any rights.

    Because the government can just disappear full citizens into the no-rights category, and there is no right to challenge the designation.