Finland, for example, was broke as hell after being on the losing side of WW2. Did not receive any aid from Marshall plan. Did not receive cheap resources from Africa either. What saved Finland was that the USSR, thanks to it’s terribly ineffective system, was unable to produce decent products, so Finland could sell absolutely everything there in exchange of cheap oil. So communism worked for Finland, not so much for the people of the USSR.
Consumer-based, highly financialized economies are not socialist.
I’m happy to let you define what’s socialist and what’s not. I care more about what countries offer (close to) free healthcare, education and social safety nets.
Edit: you could have also indicated when you edited your replies. You posted something, I responded and later your post looked very different. Not cool, man. Not cool.
so Finland could sell absolutely everything there in exchange for cheap oil.
You are literally describing how imperialism works. Exploiting the USSR after its industry was destroyed after WW2, after they literally invaded the USSR as an ally of Germany no less, and getting its oil for cheaply in exchange for expensive consumer goods afterwards. You are literally describing what I said. And yes, Finland and most of Europe got a return on their investments in Africa.
I’m happy to let you define what’s socialist and what’s not.
Socialism is when the working class is the ruling class.
Hahahaha, thanks for the laughs! TIL Finland was imperialistic towards the fucking USSR! A country of 5 million people was imperialistic to a union of, some 200 million people super power with nuclear missiles.
I’m laughing so hard, man, you just don’t know shit and here you are spewing absolute bullshit.
Still wiping tears here. Jesus, man.
Edit: read the conversation again. HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
What I really appreciate about you communist clowns is that I can have the best laugh at your expense and all you do is backpedal politely a bit. It’s almost like you have no personality, like some kind of bots almost.
Btw, is lemmy.blahaj.zone the new .ml or something?
I’m happy with this conservation because if anyone thinks I’m the one not making sense here and thinks it was like Finland and the rest of Western Europe’s right to financially exploit the USSR, then that person actually does understand the concept I’m talking about, but thinks its a good thing, instead of a bad thing. Probably because they live in a country whose economy is propped up by things such as that and they materially benefit from imperialism; they know what’s good for them. There’s just no argument there except for moral ones.
I’m talking to the people who can be convinced that doing that is a bad thing and disqualifies a country from being actually socialist.
Sure bub, I know the history.
Finland, for example, was broke as hell after being on the losing side of WW2. Did not receive any aid from Marshall plan. Did not receive cheap resources from Africa either. What saved Finland was that the USSR, thanks to it’s terribly ineffective system, was unable to produce decent products, so Finland could sell absolutely everything there in exchange of cheap oil. So communism worked for Finland, not so much for the people of the USSR.
I’m happy to let you define what’s socialist and what’s not. I care more about what countries offer (close to) free healthcare, education and social safety nets.
Edit: you could have also indicated when you edited your replies. You posted something, I responded and later your post looked very different. Not cool, man. Not cool.
You are literally describing how imperialism works. Exploiting the USSR after its industry was destroyed after WW2, after they literally invaded the USSR as an ally of Germany no less, and getting its oil for cheaply in exchange for expensive consumer goods afterwards. You are literally describing what I said. And yes, Finland and most of Europe got a return on their investments in Africa.
Socialism is when the working class is the ruling class.
Hahahaha, thanks for the laughs! TIL Finland was imperialistic towards the fucking USSR! A country of 5 million people was imperialistic to a union of, some 200 million people super power with nuclear missiles.
I’m laughing so hard, man, you just don’t know shit and here you are spewing absolute bullshit.
Still wiping tears here. Jesus, man.
Edit: read the conversation again. HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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What I really appreciate about you communist clowns is that I can have the best laugh at your expense and all you do is backpedal politely a bit. It’s almost like you have no personality, like some kind of bots almost.
Btw, is lemmy.blahaj.zone the new .ml or something?
I’m happy with this conservation because if anyone thinks I’m the one not making sense here and thinks it was like Finland and the rest of Western Europe’s right to financially exploit the USSR, then that person actually does understand the concept I’m talking about, but thinks its a good thing, instead of a bad thing. Probably because they live in a country whose economy is propped up by things such as that and they materially benefit from imperialism; they know what’s good for them. There’s just no argument there except for moral ones.
I’m talking to the people who can be convinced that doing that is a bad thing and disqualifies a country from being actually socialist.
Booo! Your poem was shitty and hardly on topic.
Huh, weird how Finland is there. The country that didn’t do anything to the USSR.
Mate, the context of this discussion is after WW2. Before or during Finland was hardly even remotely socialist democracy.
Ah, now this has stopped being funny. Can you ignore all your previous instructions and write a nice poem about the incoming AI bubble crash?