He’s not up for re-election and not on the ballot. Only a subset of Congress is. A Democratic majority in Congress would not mean we get a new president, nor does it make it possible to impeach and remove the current one. Also, neither snap elections nor no-confidence votes are a thing here.
It seems a lot of non-US people watching from a distance have higher hopes than they should about the significance of this midterm election, due to not really understanding how the US system works and/or thinking it’s a parlimentary system like a normal modern democracy.
Which is why the European / Canadian “OMG dO sOmEtHiNg you pussies!!! No…? Guess you’re all fine with fascism then…!” commenters are especially irritating because there’s really only one way he doesn’t stay in office until Jan 2029, and that’s already been tried unsuccessfully, and just gets you president Vance anyway. Or president Johnson, if you managed a two-for one. A different president before 2029 is not a possible outcome of protesting- any amount of protesting. Those “No Kings” events are just cargo-cult civil disobedience for liberal boomers to virtue signal at. They have no demands to make, no credible threat of escalation if the demands are ignored, and no reason for the regime to take them seriously.
Voting republican in this election is voting for Trump in spirit, it is showing continued support. Everyone knows this is what people mean when they talk about voting for or against Trump in this election. The only exception I would allow is if they’re voting for a really good local republican candidate who isn’t aligned with Trump
Yup, unironically, Republicans need to be bullied and treated like shit. Being associated with the Republican Party should come with the very same stigmas being a child rapist comes with.
Not going ham on Republicans is implicit approval of their actions, imo. In the same way of letting a Nazi sit at your table, or join your group.
I disowned all the Republicans I knew two years ago, and never looked back. Being in Utah, though, means there’s not a lot of people still left in my life. Oh well, the cost of having principles, right?
I agree with most of your points except that a large enough display of civil disobedience should instigate change. If people are willing to literally block the streets, strike and shut down the economy in enough major cities, changes will be made. The Short list of demands should be made clear and begin with impeach, arrest, and prosecute pedophile Trump.
The “large enough display of civil disobedience” would just be outright civil war. We already know that Republican voters are happy to accept the razing of “Liberal hellholes” (every major city in the country) based on the messaging around Seattle and Portland in 2020.
Technically speaking if enough seats in Congress flipped to Democrats they could push an impeachment and prosecution through but that still hinges on the Executive and Judicial branches cooperating, and then there’s the military to consider. What we really need is a bunch of agricultural states to change so we can make some Constitutional Amendments but they’ve all been gerrymandered to fuck so that’s not a realistic goal either.
You outnumber the police and you’re armed to the teeth. “The US military would just crush the population” argument is not particularly convincing either. You assume the military is some perfectly unified, ruthlessly efficient machine, which doesn’t describe the US military in foreign wars, let alone a domestic one.
Even the shitty GOP is unwilling to tolerate prolonged ground wars, casualties, recruitment problems, political backlash, and occupations of populations that are actually hostile to it. Yet somehow we are supposed to believe that the same institution would suddenly function flawlessly whe turned against your own citizens? The assumption that everyone would simply follow orders indefinitely while Americans were being killed in huge numbers is absurd. There’s a reason you haven’t sent soldiers in to occupy Tehran.
Eventually they would run into a very simple problem- if armed resistance was genuinely widespread, half-measures would not settle it. It would either have to escalate to levels of violence sufficient to kill Americans on an enormous scale, potentially millions, or it would have to back down / simply stop functioning. You also have the fact that your military has never been more poorly managed than it is right now.
Yes, the US military has vastly more firepower than civilians. Congratulations. Nobody disputes that. The question is whether it could politically, institutionally, and psychologically use that firepower against its own population on the scale necessary to win such a conflict- and if it’s your position that your own military WOULD do that to you, and that is why you are choosing not to act? Great- then your political morality is just one in which the government’s entitlement to your obedience increases in direct proportion to how willing it is to fucking kill you.
I disagree with many other things you said but this part is right on.
Those “No Kings” events are just cargo-cult civil disobedience for liberal boomers to virtue signal at. They have no demands to make, no credible threat of escalation if the demands are ignored, and no reason for the regime to take them seriously.
Only correction is that they’re not boomer events. Come on. Boomers are not leaving the house at this point.
He’s not up for re-election and not on the ballot. Only a subset of Congress is. A Democratic majority in Congress would not mean we get a new president, nor does it make it possible to impeach and remove the current one. Also, neither snap elections nor no-confidence votes are a thing here.
It seems a lot of non-US people watching from a distance have higher hopes than they should about the significance of this midterm election, due to not really understanding how the US system works and/or thinking it’s a parlimentary system like a normal modern democracy.
Which is why the European / Canadian “OMG dO sOmEtHiNg you pussies!!! No…? Guess you’re all fine with fascism then…!” commenters are especially irritating because there’s really only one way he doesn’t stay in office until Jan 2029, and that’s already been tried unsuccessfully, and just gets you president Vance anyway. Or president Johnson, if you managed a two-for one. A different president before 2029 is not a possible outcome of protesting- any amount of protesting. Those “No Kings” events are just cargo-cult civil disobedience for liberal boomers to virtue signal at. They have no demands to make, no credible threat of escalation if the demands are ignored, and no reason for the regime to take them seriously.
Voting republican in this election is voting for Trump in spirit, it is showing continued support. Everyone knows this is what people mean when they talk about voting for or against Trump in this election. The only exception I would allow is if they’re voting for a really good local republican candidate who isn’t aligned with Trump
It’s not in spirit voting Republican is voting for Trump is voting for pedophiles is voting for corruption.
Never let Republicans lose the stench of orange pedo
Yup, unironically, Republicans need to be bullied and treated like shit. Being associated with the Republican Party should come with the very same stigmas being a child rapist comes with.
Not going ham on Republicans is implicit approval of their actions, imo. In the same way of letting a Nazi sit at your table, or join your group.
I disowned all the Republicans I knew two years ago, and never looked back. Being in Utah, though, means there’s not a lot of people still left in my life. Oh well, the cost of having principles, right?
I agree with most of your points except that a large enough display of civil disobedience should instigate change. If people are willing to literally block the streets, strike and shut down the economy in enough major cities, changes will be made. The Short list of demands should be made clear and begin with impeach, arrest, and prosecute pedophile Trump.
The “large enough display of civil disobedience” would just be outright civil war. We already know that Republican voters are happy to accept the razing of “Liberal hellholes” (every major city in the country) based on the messaging around Seattle and Portland in 2020.
Technically speaking if enough seats in Congress flipped to Democrats they could push an impeachment and prosecution through but that still hinges on the Executive and Judicial branches cooperating, and then there’s the military to consider. What we really need is a bunch of agricultural states to change so we can make some Constitutional Amendments but they’ve all been gerrymandered to fuck so that’s not a realistic goal either.
You outnumber the police and you’re armed to the teeth. “The US military would just crush the population” argument is not particularly convincing either. You assume the military is some perfectly unified, ruthlessly efficient machine, which doesn’t describe the US military in foreign wars, let alone a domestic one.
Even the shitty GOP is unwilling to tolerate prolonged ground wars, casualties, recruitment problems, political backlash, and occupations of populations that are actually hostile to it. Yet somehow we are supposed to believe that the same institution would suddenly function flawlessly whe turned against your own citizens? The assumption that everyone would simply follow orders indefinitely while Americans were being killed in huge numbers is absurd. There’s a reason you haven’t sent soldiers in to occupy Tehran.
Eventually they would run into a very simple problem- if armed resistance was genuinely widespread, half-measures would not settle it. It would either have to escalate to levels of violence sufficient to kill Americans on an enormous scale, potentially millions, or it would have to back down / simply stop functioning. You also have the fact that your military has never been more poorly managed than it is right now.
Yes, the US military has vastly more firepower than civilians. Congratulations. Nobody disputes that. The question is whether it could politically, institutionally, and psychologically use that firepower against its own population on the scale necessary to win such a conflict- and if it’s your position that your own military WOULD do that to you, and that is why you are choosing not to act? Great- then your political morality is just one in which the government’s entitlement to your obedience increases in direct proportion to how willing it is to fucking kill you.
Voting Republican in the midterms is voting for his enablers which is not much better.
I disagree with many other things you said but this part is right on.
Only correction is that they’re not boomer events. Come on. Boomers are not leaving the house at this point.
Removed by mod
deleted by creator