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Quilotoa@lemmy.ca to News@lemmy.world · 4 days ago

Luxury cruise passengers stranded in Cambodia due to soaring fuel costs

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Quilotoa@lemmy.ca to News@lemmy.world · 4 days ago
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The Villa Vie Odyssey suspended its voyage and is working with passengers on "temporary living arrangements".
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  • xxce2AAb@feddit.dk
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    My heart bleeds for them. Anyway, what’s everyone having for dinner?

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      Local delicacy, basically boiled cabbage leaf wraps stuffed with rice and herbs and a bit of ground beef (optional).

      Sounds weird, tastes great if made well. Google “Λαχανοντολμάδες”.

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        That sounds absolutely delicious to me. Then again, I’m currently developing plans to do something to a ham that involves combining the underlying principles of a French reduced red-wine sauce and Chinese red braising, so maybe I’m not the best judge.

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        Bruh TIL that Greek mahshi (the Middle Eastern equivalent of this) is a thing.

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          I did some digging and found that Dolma (Turkish name for vine leaf wraps we have here in Greece as well with the same name), Mahshi and Γεμιστά (rice stuffed vegetables) are etymologically the same word “stuffed / to stuff-fill with”.

          Due to the proximity of Greece, Türkiye, Egypt etc it makes sense that we share that dish with basically the same name translated in each language.

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        This sounds good. I would try this. It almost sounds like an unstuffed cabbage recipe a friend if mine was describing.

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        Stuffed cabbage isn’t weird.

      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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        At first I thought you were describing galumpkis. What is the sauce like on that? Is it pesto like?

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          It’s usually served with an egg-lemon-broth sauce. Sometimes thickened a bit with some corn starch. It’s very mild tasting, not as “eggy” as you’d expect. Apparently they’re known as “Greek cabbage rolls” if you wanna get a recipe

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            Oh that sounds fun, thanks for the name as well!

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        We have those in Bulgaria too, so fucking yummy

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        Not grape leaves?

        • Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world
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          That’s another dish. In Greek we call them by their Turkish name “Ντολμαδάκια” or “Ντολμάδες” for the grape leaf ones (the Turkish word is Dolma for something stuffed)

          The cabbage ones are “Λαχανοντολμάδες”, with the word “Λάχανο” added in front which means cabbage, so “cabbage Dolma”.

          Essentially the cabbage ones are named as a variation of the grape leaf recipe.

          Their main difference is the grape leaf ones are mostly served “dry”, more like sushi.

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            Ah, I see! Thank you for the explanation, I really appreciate it!

    • W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Burgers.

      • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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        Served on a drum of diesel fuel.

    • Greystripeycat@lemmy.today
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      Lentils and rice with spam.

      • BingBongTheArcher@lemmy.today
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        I started eating strictly healthy food 3 years ago and only just tried brown lentils for the first time a few months ago and now half of my food budget goes towards lentils. Lol

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          Lentils are a literal life-saver.

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            They really are. Healthy, easy to cook, taste incredibly good. I’m a believer.

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              Long live the legumes!

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      “Cheeky masala” (aka chicken tikka masala).

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      Yesterdays Left-over pizza. Probably not a full meal but a bowl of oatmeal with yogurt and home-made jam for dessert will fix that.

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      Lamb, brown rice, broccoli, red and yellow bell peppers, yellow and orange carrots, pearl onions, morels, stir-fried in ghee and evoo.

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      Sauerkraut mashed with potatoes and bacon bits with gravy and a sausage

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    Cambodia is one of the most amazing countries I’ve ever visited, so not a bad place to be stranded. It’s also really cheap there. But fuck cruises, they are so insanely bad for the environment.

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    Cambodia is a pretty nice place to be stranded, at least. Could always do worse, like Iowa.

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      Could always do worse, like Iowa.

      A cruise ship getting stranded in Iowa would take some pretty creative navigation.

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      As long as you’re not anywhere near Thailand’s borders

    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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      Well… yes and no. The eastern border is the Mississippi River, after all, and river cruises are absolutely a thing.

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        What are you even talking about they’re nowhere near each other

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  • Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip
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    So its a Holiday in Cambodia then.

    https://youtu.be/v0Uc6ZWDF3c

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    Not much “luxury” in a cruise if you get stranded in nowhereland, err, -sea.

    If they don’t have money to fuel their ship, when will they run out of money to pay the crew, or to buy food?

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      A lot of those were likely assumed to be fixed costs. Obviously it was not an overwhelmingly successful business if they could not absorb the extra expenses, but according to the article fuel prices, which are likely one of their biggest variable expenses, had more than quadrupled. I’m not sure the margin cruises are making, but there are a lot of businesses closing because of fuel prices, so they’re not alone there.

      This is a horrible way to deal with the issue though. I’m not sure what recourse the passengers have because they signed up for 3 years and only got 2, but I hope they are able to be made whole.

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    It’s a holiday in Cambodia 🇰🇭

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      Don’t forget to pack a wife

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    Did they even say “Thank you !” to trump??

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      The whole premise of this ship’s voyage was for people to leave the US for duration of Trump’s presidency, so it’s basically a ship full of people who fucking hate him.

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    I guess it was puffery when they said “Luxury”.

  • Rhonda Sandtits@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Poop Cruise 2

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      Septic Poogaloo

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      Poop Harder.

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    Relevant blog post from a couple who had participated in said venture from its very beginning:

    https://residentialcruising.com/abandon-ship/

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      That message from the CEO… damn “you basically have about 7 hours to get all your stuff and get off our ship. Have fun in a foreign country!”

      The company knew this was a failed business model and probably were bleeding money and this was the last straw.

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    Temporary living arrangements are cheaper than fuel?

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      In Cambodia? Definitely. I haven’t been there recently though so I don’t have first-hand price references. I don’t know how these luxury cruise passengers are taking it, but I’d say there are definitely worse places to be stranded than on the shores of The Gulf of Thailand, next to a huge nature preserve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ream_National_Park

    • Quilotoa@lemmy.caOP
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      For comfortable western standards, we averaged about 30USD per night in Cambodia as a couple.

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    Boohoo

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    What’s with some of the really judgemental comments towards some people going on a cruise? Like what would you rather people do for a holiday

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      Anything but a cruise.

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        Why?

        • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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          They deposit millions of pounds of shit and other waste into oceans.

          They use so much fuel they led to this story.

          They are floating petri dishes of disease outbreaks. There’s even Netflix docs about it.

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          Environmental impact mostly.

          • /home/pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Wouldn’t a roadtrip be similar environmental impact? A cruise ship transports large amounts of people

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              IIRC the fuel burned by those things is like the bottom of the barrel and is significantly worse for particles and stuff compared to more refined fuel used for car or trains for example

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                and they just blow the exhaust into the water.

                Many cruise lines have been caught dumping trash in the ocean illegally, or filling up landfills in small coastal towns.

                https://alaskapublic.org/xx-statewide-news/2020-02-26/cruise-ships-dumped-more-than-3-million-pounds-of-trash-in-juneau-last-year

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                  Holly Molly that’s even worse

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                  Oh that’s pretty fucked

            • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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              A cruise ship transports large amounts of people

              who shit in the water and give each other fecal-oral route diseases. I have idiot family members who like cruises and they’ve all been hospitalized for diseases like: Hepatitis, COVID, and the very popular Norovirus where you barf and shit yourself for three days.

              Fun! all inclusive!

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                I live near a cruise port and know a lot of people who have been on them and not had a problem.

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            Are planes any better though?

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              You are SO bad at trolling it really shows.

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      There’s a really big “blame the rich for everything” population here. You can kinda tell what political system they favour.

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        Quite possibly, although cruises don’t even cost that much if you compare them to other holiday options. Especially for what you get.

        Was looking it up and if I drank more it would easily be worth it with the all inclusive drinks packages and cheaper than a lot of other “budget” holidays. But while I can happily drink over 5 pints on a rare occasion I don’t really want to every day for a week.

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      Picket on the Capitol White House

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