For example: Jaws crashed the shark population and Sideways changed the popularity of 2 different Wines.

  • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Star Trek introduced a lot of the first concepts of what we currently use as every day technology, it had a first hand tangible impact on the lives of pretty much every human alive today.

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      Hey I love star trek as much as the next guy but this is a bit of an overstatement.

      They didn’t invent anything, it’s just a portrayal of what the future might look like.

      Some of it is very obvious and not much of a prediction: like a hand held device with sensors - but they did get the form factor and use cases completely wrong.

      Most of it is obviously remains fictional, like transporters.

      Sorry if you want to say trek predicted the future you have to ignore the majority of the show which they got completely wrong.

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          2 days ago

          Oh sorry, it’s just that you seemed to be saying that star trek changed the world by introducing the first concepts of tech we used today.

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            It did. Do you not understand the difference between invention and first concept? I never gave them credit for everything, but it’s indisputable that the cell phone was inspired directly by Star Trek communicators, that is according to the inventor of the first cell phone, as well as the concept of multi-funtion interface devices which is exactly what you’re likely holding in your hand at this very moment which is also a cell phone.

            Feel free to die on that hill, but what I’m saying is an objective fact.

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              LOL.

              There’s some “objective facts” in that guys memoirs aparently:

              As Martin Cooper reveals in his new memoir Cutting the Cord: The Creator of the Cell Phone Speaks Out, cellular technology was actually being developed in the late ’50s and through the ’60s. By the time Star Trek debuted in 1966, Cooper and his team at Motorola were practically in the home stretch; in 1973, they debuted the first-ever handheld mobile telephone, the brick-like DynaTAC. Cooper himself made the first cell phone call on October 17, 1973—to his chief competitor at AT&T, with whom he’d been in a bit of a cellular space race, as revealed in the book

              https://www.sanjoseinside.com/news/qa-why-the-inventor-of-the-cellular-phone-says-dont-ever-fall-in-love-with-the-technology/

              The article goes on to explain coopers role in the star trek myth.

              Very obviously, handheld devices were inevitable and predictable in the 60s when ToS was written. That was my original point.

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                  8 hours ago

                  Ok let’s recap:

                  • you trot out something you learned from some shatner edutainment you saw, as fact
                  • assertion does not withstand a moment’s critical thought
                  • you double down with some ad hominem and some “objective facts”
                  • facts are proven false by your own purported source
                  • you triple down with more ad hominem, because of course you’re not the problem.

                  This pattern of interaction is common among a particular type of person. I’ll give you a tip for free: it’s not smart people.