They searched for four or five hours and seized 17 items, including phones, notebooks, a Somali language children’s book and a vintage camera that her husband had received as a gift, she said.
Ilhan Omar received her citizenship as a dependent minor child when her father was naturalized. She was, in fact, 17 years old when this happened.
The governments theory of the investigation is that she lied about her age, and she was really 18 at the time. If that were true, then she would not be eligible for automatic derived citizenship, and she would have needed to do her own naturalization.
To be clear, this age thing is a bonkers Internet conspiracy theory. But an old children’s book might conceivably be relevant.
Imagine being a human being from the future reading this shit. What they did to this woman just for a piece of paper, a year of difference or whatever lies and nonsense is being made up too.
It is almost on the same level as chopping the arm off a thief who stole some bread to survive. What a bunch of exaggerated inhumane stupid rules written by the Jeffrey Epstein Class. Why the fuck are we still respecting them at all?
Unless her dad wrote “dedicated to my loving daughter whom knowingly allowed me to file a fraudulent immigration document on her behalf” then I don’t think it is relevant. From what I have read it’s not even a problem if it was filed while she was 18 provided she had no knowledge of her late father’s actions.
I’m thinking a book might have a publication date or a printing date on it somewhere. There’s a remote chance that would provide some loose circumstantial evidence as to ages.
From what I have read it’s not even a problem if it was filed while she was 18 provided she had no knowledge of her late father’s actions.
Lack of knowledge might insulate Ilhan from criminal charges. But because she has derived citizenship, she can lose the derivation in a civil process if it is proven that she was really 18. In that case she reverts to her previous status of lawful permanent resident. There’s no statute of limitations on the civil side.
If she is found to have never received citizenship, she will probably not be eligible serve as a representative.
(Yes. The immigration laws of this country are fucked up.)
I’m thinking a book might have a publication date or a printing date on it somewhere. There’s a remote chance that would provide some loose circumstantial evidence as to ages.
Beyond the fact that yes, Ilhan Omar was a child herself once upon a time, she has three children of her own.
“The circle of suspects grows wider, Sherlock. Any one – or even all – of those people might be the true owner!”
Imagine you’re a fascist. That’s what this commenter is doing, putting themselves in the shoes of the feds to understand their mentality. They’re getting downvoted for it because Lemmy. They don’t actually hold this view.
Maybe, just maybe, they’re getting downvoted because people are tired of “benefit of the doubt” or speculative justifications for fascists.
Maybe people have, reasonably, decided that actions taken by this administration should be considered petty, punitive and unlawful unless and until they can provide evidence to the contrary.
The commenter may not hold the view but they are tacitly supporting fascistic behavior.
I’m not one to defend Lemmy’s downvoting behavior, but let’s put ourselves in the shoes of an antifa to understand their mentality. OP didn’t say anything other than “conceive the inconceivable”. They could have suggested anything, like maybe the book had her birthday in it. Or maybe the FBI can’t read and thought it was an ANTIFA strategy book. Anything to help conceive the inconceivable. I also have doubts that the judge approved taking a children’s book, and likely approved retrieving birth certificate documentation. But we know the mind of a fascist, and they will self-justify every action to achieve their goals.
Eh no, she’s a political opponent of Trump and also has the kind of skin color he specifically dislikes. That’s a much clearer reason than a children book alleging someone was 18 years old at some point in the past.
A children’s book, really?
Well you know how Republicans are with kids.
It’s obviously a bomb making guide! I mean, they can’t read it, so it must be true!
(/s just in case, can never be too sure these days…)
I’m thinking of the scene in Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay
(Directed at two English speaking Korean Americans) I dunno what you’re saying buddy, but FUCK YOU
The whole search is a waste of tax dollars and government employees time
I know right? They can’t even fucking read.
Maybe it’s a ledger of that minnesotan Somali daycare fraud scheme I keep seeing magats claim is totally real and super easy to do
Ilhan Omar received her citizenship as a dependent minor child when her father was naturalized. She was, in fact, 17 years old when this happened.
The governments theory of the investigation is that she lied about her age, and she was really 18 at the time. If that were true, then she would not be eligible for automatic derived citizenship, and she would have needed to do her own naturalization.
To be clear, this age thing is a bonkers Internet conspiracy theory. But an old children’s book might conceivably be relevant.
Imagine being a human being from the future reading this shit. What they did to this woman just for a piece of paper, a year of difference or whatever lies and nonsense is being made up too.
It is almost on the same level as chopping the arm off a thief who stole some bread to survive. What a bunch of exaggerated inhumane stupid rules written by the Jeffrey Epstein Class. Why the fuck are we still respecting them at all?
Dems ran on nobody being above the law. Turns out some laws are fucked up.
Unless her dad wrote “dedicated to my loving daughter whom knowingly allowed me to file a fraudulent immigration document on her behalf” then I don’t think it is relevant. From what I have read it’s not even a problem if it was filed while she was 18 provided she had no knowledge of her late father’s actions.
I’m thinking a book might have a publication date or a printing date on it somewhere. There’s a remote chance that would provide some loose circumstantial evidence as to ages.
Lack of knowledge might insulate Ilhan from criminal charges. But because she has derived citizenship, she can lose the derivation in a civil process if it is proven that she was really 18. In that case she reverts to her previous status of lawful permanent resident. There’s no statute of limitations on the civil side.
If she is found to have never received citizenship, she will probably not be eligible serve as a representative.
(Yes. The immigration laws of this country are fucked up.)
Beyond the fact that yes, Ilhan Omar was a child herself once upon a time, she has three children of her own.
“The circle of suspects grows wider, Sherlock. Any one – or even all – of those people might be the true owner!”
lmfao
Imagine you’re a fascist. That’s what this commenter is doing, putting themselves in the shoes of the feds to understand their mentality. They’re getting downvoted for it because Lemmy. They don’t actually hold this view.
Maybe, just maybe, they’re getting downvoted because people are tired of “benefit of the doubt” or speculative justifications for fascists.
Maybe people have, reasonably, decided that actions taken by this administration should be considered petty, punitive and unlawful unless and until they can provide evidence to the contrary.
The commenter may not hold the view but they are tacitly supporting fascistic behavior.
I’m not one to defend Lemmy’s downvoting behavior, but let’s put ourselves in the shoes of an antifa to understand their mentality. OP didn’t say anything other than “conceive the inconceivable”. They could have suggested anything, like maybe the book had her birthday in it. Or maybe the FBI can’t read and thought it was an ANTIFA strategy book. Anything to help conceive the inconceivable. I also have doubts that the judge approved taking a children’s book, and likely approved retrieving birth certificate documentation. But we know the mind of a fascist, and they will self-justify every action to achieve their goals.
Eh no, she’s a political opponent of Trump and also has the kind of skin color he specifically dislikes. That’s a much clearer reason than a children book alleging someone was 18 years old at some point in the past.