Iowa city council debates proper time in meeting agenda to “undo the curse that was just put on our city.”

An Iowa man has kicked off controversy over religious freedom in the small town of Ottumwa, Iowa by opening a city council meeting with a prayer to Satan, which then kicked off a debate about the proper time in the meeting agenda to undo the “curse.”

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    Lucifer was the most beautiful of all angels and was cast down to earth for daring to question God’s authority.

    Not that any of those cross eyed bear-ing Christians would know that.

    Edit: apparently this is Milton’s fanfic.

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        TY! TIL.

        Corrected, or at least acknowledged.

        It’s been a very long time since I’ve read the old testament.

        IMHO it’s all fanfic.

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        The entire new testament is fan fiction. Iēsous of Nazareth didn’t write any of it, the first assumed author never even met him.

        The “biblical canon” of today seems to be more or less just whatever was later dictated when Christianity became the Roman Empire’s state religion. Who knows how much other, potentially more accurate reports about Iēsous were lost during that dictatorship?

        Now, I agree that Paradise Lost does not have any claim to veracity. I would just also say any claim the new testament has is null and void.

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            yeah I was about to say, just cause ones older than the other doesnt give it any more credibility.

            They were still written by men, men with agendas. Same with every translation they’ve gone through, Not only getting translated, but having minor to major tweaks to suit the new agendas.

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              Bible is an astrological sungod myth for the dawn of the age of Pisces (fish), end of age of Taurus (dead bull), and looking forward to age of Aquarius (guy with water pail). It tells the winter solstice, dying for 3 days and rising again, the spring equinox triumph over darkness, and helped civilizations track the 2250-year constellation progression into Pisces. In 2250 we’ll need a new Bible for Aquarius.

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        The biblical canon is written by flawed, biased narrators though. I think it’s perfectly valid to project an alternate canon onto their story.

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          Most of the bible is fanfictions “according to (insert prophet here)” i think its closer to a Hatsune Miku situation where any bible verse can be canon

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        I’m not saying Paradise Lost is a literary achievement on par with the Bible. I’m saying the Bible is a literary achievement on par with Paradise Lost.

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        So the figure of Satan is exclusive to that specific book and religion then? (“the Bible”). You know that it’s largely based on other religions and books, right? 👀 Bible doesn’t have more or less authority over Satan/Lucifer/Bahomet/AnyOtherOriginName than Paradise Lost or any other holy or not holy book 😬

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      apparently along with several other angels that rebelled with him, depending on which lore you want to get into.

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      The word “Lucifer” appears only once in the Bible (Isaiah 14:12), and is a Latin translation of the Hebrew “hêlêl”, which was referring to Nebuchadnezzar II, not Satan or an angel or any other supernatural being.