I have cruise control in my car, and not the smart cruise control that slows you down if some arsehole pulls out right in front of you. I rented a Toyota Camry for a month that did that. While mine was in the shop. It could also change lanes without you touching the steering wheel. It wasn’t FSD, but it could take turns for you. I feel the tech was there, but it wasn’t enabled, but it could do it in short bursts. Anyway, MY car doesn’t have the adaptive cruise control, just the regular.
My point is, if I’m cruising at 40 and the speed limit drops to 20kph and I get a speeding ticket for not reducing speed, I can’t say “well I had cruise on.” Sure, but it’s up to you to reduce the speed. FSD doesn’t absolve you of liability, it’s still your car and your responsibility. Not sure how people don’t get that. I mean, fuck the elongated muskrat and fuck the regime he’s propping up, but let’s not go crazy and act like Teslas and other EVs aren’t a net positive for the environment. Sure, they have their flaws, but making them out to be murder machines is straight-up false. If you don’t want that much tech in your car (I don’t — I just want my music and Maps, so I use an aftermarket CarPlay from China and pair to that), don’t buy a Tesla. Pretty simple. I kinda want a Tesla though. But I’d rather have a BYD. They’re more cost efficient, I think. And I’d rather not support the fascist muskrat.
They are making a defective, misleading product. Cruise control is not marketed as making the vehicle autonomous, and people don’t expect it to be. But Tesla does, and people do. They share responsibility with the negligent drivers.
Sure, but if they say you have to be in control at all times to pass blame then they need to call it driver assist or something other than “full self driving”.
They can call it whatever they want, the bottom line is that a human is behind the wheel and ultimately they’re responsible.
And I think it has been well established at this point that fsd isn’t ready yet, that it’s not safe. The fact that they call it “full self driving” is cute… but it’s marketing, it’s not a get out of jail free card.
Edit: Hah. So many down votes! Well go ahead, down vote personal responsibility! I mean, suggesting maybe people are responsible for the choices they make, fuck me right!
Okay, so the name sucks, but if my kid breaks her laptop, I still gotta pay it. I didn’t break it. The kid broke it. But it’s still my responsibility.
I don’t have a kid. If I did, I’d hope I had a kid who wouldn’t break nice things. But, let’s be real. Kids and cats break nice things. I also don’t have a Tesla. But if you own something (or you have a pet or a child) you are still responsible for what they do.
It’s going to be interesting if we ever get those cars that go out on our behalf and do ride sharing gigs while we’re at work, earning back the money they spend keeping themselves charged. I wanna say one of the EV makers floated that idea. It never happened. But if it did, while you’re at work your car does damage. Who are they going to blame? Maybe you have insurance that covers it. But you’d still be responsible.
This argument is just bonkers. Are you conflating a child and a corporations claim for a car to be fully self driving? These aren’t even comparable things.
yeah if its named absolutely no liabilty to you we will take all the blame because we guarantee our car has full self driving capability. well thats just a name. it does not mean anything.
I have cruise control in my car, and not the smart cruise control that slows you down if some arsehole pulls out right in front of you. I rented a Toyota Camry for a month that did that. While mine was in the shop. It could also change lanes without you touching the steering wheel. It wasn’t FSD, but it could take turns for you. I feel the tech was there, but it wasn’t enabled, but it could do it in short bursts. Anyway, MY car doesn’t have the adaptive cruise control, just the regular.
My point is, if I’m cruising at 40 and the speed limit drops to 20kph and I get a speeding ticket for not reducing speed, I can’t say “well I had cruise on.” Sure, but it’s up to you to reduce the speed. FSD doesn’t absolve you of liability, it’s still your car and your responsibility. Not sure how people don’t get that. I mean, fuck the elongated muskrat and fuck the regime he’s propping up, but let’s not go crazy and act like Teslas and other EVs aren’t a net positive for the environment. Sure, they have their flaws, but making them out to be murder machines is straight-up false. If you don’t want that much tech in your car (I don’t — I just want my music and Maps, so I use an aftermarket CarPlay from China and pair to that), don’t buy a Tesla. Pretty simple. I kinda want a Tesla though. But I’d rather have a BYD. They’re more cost efficient, I think. And I’d rather not support the fascist muskrat.
They are making a defective, misleading product. Cruise control is not marketed as making the vehicle autonomous, and people don’t expect it to be. But Tesla does, and people do. They share responsibility with the negligent drivers.
Sure, but if they say you have to be in control at all times to pass blame then they need to call it driver assist or something other than “full self driving”.
They can call it whatever they want, the bottom line is that a human is behind the wheel and ultimately they’re responsible.
And I think it has been well established at this point that fsd isn’t ready yet, that it’s not safe. The fact that they call it “full self driving” is cute… but it’s marketing, it’s not a get out of jail free card.
Edit: Hah. So many down votes! Well go ahead, down vote personal responsibility! I mean, suggesting maybe people are responsible for the choices they make, fuck me right!
Tesla should be held at least partially responsible for being intentionally misleading in how they named their fancy cruise control.
Okay, so the name sucks, but if my kid breaks her laptop, I still gotta pay it. I didn’t break it. The kid broke it. But it’s still my responsibility.
I don’t have a kid. If I did, I’d hope I had a kid who wouldn’t break nice things. But, let’s be real. Kids and cats break nice things. I also don’t have a Tesla. But if you own something (or you have a pet or a child) you are still responsible for what they do.
It’s going to be interesting if we ever get those cars that go out on our behalf and do ride sharing gigs while we’re at work, earning back the money they spend keeping themselves charged. I wanna say one of the EV makers floated that idea. It never happened. But if it did, while you’re at work your car does damage. Who are they going to blame? Maybe you have insurance that covers it. But you’d still be responsible.
This argument is just bonkers. Are you conflating a child and a corporations claim for a car to be fully self driving? These aren’t even comparable things.
I’ve never seen a 16 year old corporation charged with murder and tried as an adult.
yeah if its named absolutely no liabilty to you we will take all the blame because we guarantee our car has full self driving capability. well thats just a name. it does not mean anything.
Full self driving*
*Not full self driving at all
Seems fair and not confusing at all right?
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*fake gold that is just spray painted dog shit
yeah its rediculous to think someone would think something about something when its name is just a phrase that would suggest that.