• pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    I started it when Jordon Klepper starts to speak. He gives a really good idea of what he things they’re thinking and why. He’s a great source since he’s been interviewing them since the beginning. (37:21) https://youtu.be/oLoXaZoeCoE?t=2241

    The rest of it is great too, but this deals with your question directly.