The so-called propaganda community opposes genocide in Gaza, opposes the war of aggression on Ukraine. I post about anti-Trump articles more than you ever will. You defend the establishment Democrats who go to the media wing of the fascist Republicans to attack the leftists who want the USA to respect international laws and want you to have universal health care.
They do vote while the establishment dems you defend are going to the media wing of the fascists fox news to attack any progressives and leftist and to capitulate for the republicans.
The typology groups at either end of the political spectrum, Faith and Flag Conservatives and Progressive Left, are also the most politically engaged – that is, they voted at the highest rates in the 2020 presidential election, and they are most likely to say they post about politics on social media and that they donated to campaigns.
None of that has anything to do with primaries which is what we’re talking about. The progressive left doesn’t vote in primaries. We know they vote in the general at about the same rate as other ideologically driven voters. Nowhere do I defend establishment dems. I pretty exclusively tell everyone to vote in the fucking dem primaries for the most progressive option and then prevent republicans from winning in the general, usually by voting for the democrat since third parties are fundamentally non viable at the national level and will never have power so that’s the only goddamn way that keeps republicans from putting everyone like me in a fucking death camp. But you faux fuckin leftists always say I’m supporting the establishment when I’m specifically telling you all the only way to get them out of power that doesn’t involve tens of millions of deaths. But then most of you are just accelerationists anyways and aren’t actually interested in protecting anyone.
I think one point of the article is that progressive and leftist candidates have the odds stacked against them by the party itself. We see this repeating now for candidates like Angie Nixon. The silver lining is that leftist candidates are 10x better because they have to be in order to win.
None of that addresses my point that none of you fuckin people vote in the fuckin primaries. If cons can tea party the republicans into fuckin nazis, goddamn leftists can tea party the dems into something halfway socialist, BUT THEY DON’T FUCKING VOTE IN PRIMARIES.
The Dems cheat heavily in the primaries. As someone who votes in them and pays attention to the minutia of rule changes and who’s in the bureaucracy, I know. The most obvious cheating was with Bernie in 2016, if you feel like learning about this fact.
When it comes to your false equivalency about the tea party, what you’re leaving out is money.
See, the Pubs cheat in primaries too. Normally, the tea party would never have gained power. What got the tea party to the position where they could take over, was billions and billions and billions of dollars in funding, over decades.
Can you think of some hundred billionaires who’d like to donate heavily to the long-term goal of destroying their own power? Then we could easily take over the Democratic party in only the span of a generation. Without the billions, forget about it. There is a buy-in to go to war.
The fact that you don’t know any of this, brings into focus why you believe as you do. I love your passion. We need your passion fighting the right things at the right times. So you’d benefit us all and yourself if you looked into everything I’m saying.
Vote, vote in primaries, but neither will fix the issue so you should be doing other things too, and definitely not attacking allies as if they’re simply not trying hard enough to bang their heads against a brick wall.
The “cheating” (prove that shit, by the way) wouldn’t amount to diddly fuck if goddamn progressives and leftists actually goddamn voted in the fuckin primaries.
Your attitude makes the whole viewpoint you espouse, look puerile and foolish. Not only are you not converting anyone, you are actively driving people from your cause. Which I can only assume now is your goal.
After 2016, the DNC got sued and stated in court that they are a private entity that does not have to abide by their primary results, that their primaries are just for show. It’s part of the public record.
There is plenty of other information for you to find on the 2016 DMC shenanigans leading up to that court case, but you come of as terribly disingenuous. So this pointer in the right direction is all the labor you’ll get from me.
Hey, vote in the fucking primaries or shut the fuck up. Tell me specifically how telling people to fucking vote since it’s the bare fuckin minimum political engagement is actually trying not to get people to vote. You got some fuckin republican logic here. Vote in the fuckin primaries. If you didn’t vote in the fuckin primaries then you are part of the problem. Once fuckin again my position consists of VOTE IN THE FUCKING PRIMARIES. Fuck the rest of your bullshit.
Lol “fucking show me fucking proof” “argh! Fuck! fuck your fucking proof motherfucker!”
Waking up into the hell where you don’t have power in the bureaucracy you were taught was why America made so many people suffer, is hard. I understand why you don’t wanna wanna wanna!🫂
Leftists do vote in the primaries. They vote more then centrists do. That’s not in doubt. The question is how we are supposed to handle the traitors. What do you do with snakes that hide their colors during the primary, but then betray the base during the general? You could say, “just vote for the traitor now, and vote them out next primary,” but that’s tone-deaf advice. First it rewards traitors. Second, when the next election comes around, suddenly the same exact people telling you “wait til the next primary” change their tune to “we can’t give up an incumbent seat in Ohio, this primary challenge is irresponsible!”
For liberals, there simply is never a proper time to punish libshit dems that betray their voters.
Leftists do vote in the primaries. They vote more then centrists do.
No they didn’t. If they did, we’d have a large progressive wing of the Dem party. We don’t, because leftists don’t fucking vote. Got any numbers to back up your bullshit? Gonna report this comment too so you you can try to look like you’re engaging in good faith? We both know better though don’t we?
If leftists and progressives actually voted in primaries none of the fuckery would have amounted to anything, but they don’t.
Unfounded bullshit
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The so-called propaganda community opposes genocide in Gaza, opposes the war of aggression on Ukraine. I post about anti-Trump articles more than you ever will. You defend the establishment Democrats who go to the media wing of the fascist Republicans to attack the leftists who want the USA to respect international laws and want you to have universal health care.
Mostly you just discourage people from voting and help put republicans in power in doing so.
I never did that. Keep up with your lies. You are defending the dems who capitulate to Trump that you claim to oppose
No I’m saying that leftists and progressives that don’t vote in primaries are helping republicans, because they are.
They do vote while the establishment dems you defend are going to the media wing of the fascists fox news to attack any progressives and leftist and to capitulate for the republicans.
Leftists and progressives are among the most engaged in elections unlike your claim https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/11/09/political-engagement-among-typology-groups/
None of that has anything to do with primaries which is what we’re talking about. The progressive left doesn’t vote in primaries. We know they vote in the general at about the same rate as other ideologically driven voters. Nowhere do I defend establishment dems. I pretty exclusively tell everyone to vote in the fucking dem primaries for the most progressive option and then prevent republicans from winning in the general, usually by voting for the democrat since third parties are fundamentally non viable at the national level and will never have power so that’s the only goddamn way that keeps republicans from putting everyone like me in a fucking death camp. But you faux fuckin leftists always say I’m supporting the establishment when I’m specifically telling you all the only way to get them out of power that doesn’t involve tens of millions of deaths. But then most of you are just accelerationists anyways and aren’t actually interested in protecting anyone.
I think one point of the article is that progressive and leftist candidates have the odds stacked against them by the party itself. We see this repeating now for candidates like Angie Nixon. The silver lining is that leftist candidates are 10x better because they have to be in order to win.
That’s why it’s so important for leftists and progressives to vote in the primaries. But it’s pretty well too late now, innit.
I’ll just leave this here.
https://prospect.org/2024/06/18/2024-06-18-former-dccc-leaders-incumbent-house-democrats/
https://abcnews.com/Politics/campaigns-cry-foul-national-democrats-interference-key-house/story?id=53622017
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/08/abhorrent-and-anti-democratic-outrage-dnc-panel-blocks-vote-dark-money-ban
None of that addresses my point that none of you fuckin people vote in the fuckin primaries. If cons can tea party the republicans into fuckin nazis, goddamn leftists can tea party the dems into something halfway socialist, BUT THEY DON’T FUCKING VOTE IN PRIMARIES.
The Dems cheat heavily in the primaries. As someone who votes in them and pays attention to the minutia of rule changes and who’s in the bureaucracy, I know. The most obvious cheating was with Bernie in 2016, if you feel like learning about this fact.
When it comes to your false equivalency about the tea party, what you’re leaving out is money.
See, the Pubs cheat in primaries too. Normally, the tea party would never have gained power. What got the tea party to the position where they could take over, was billions and billions and billions of dollars in funding, over decades.
Can you think of some hundred billionaires who’d like to donate heavily to the long-term goal of destroying their own power? Then we could easily take over the Democratic party in only the span of a generation. Without the billions, forget about it. There is a buy-in to go to war.
The fact that you don’t know any of this, brings into focus why you believe as you do. I love your passion. We need your passion fighting the right things at the right times. So you’d benefit us all and yourself if you looked into everything I’m saying.
Vote, vote in primaries, but neither will fix the issue so you should be doing other things too, and definitely not attacking allies as if they’re simply not trying hard enough to bang their heads against a brick wall.
The “cheating” (prove that shit, by the way) wouldn’t amount to diddly fuck if goddamn progressives and leftists actually goddamn voted in the fuckin primaries.
Your attitude makes the whole viewpoint you espouse, look puerile and foolish. Not only are you not converting anyone, you are actively driving people from your cause. Which I can only assume now is your goal.
After 2016, the DNC got sued and stated in court that they are a private entity that does not have to abide by their primary results, that their primaries are just for show. It’s part of the public record.
There is plenty of other information for you to find on the 2016 DMC shenanigans leading up to that court case, but you come of as terribly disingenuous. So this pointer in the right direction is all the labor you’ll get from me.
Hey, vote in the fucking primaries or shut the fuck up. Tell me specifically how telling people to fucking vote since it’s the bare fuckin minimum political engagement is actually trying not to get people to vote. You got some fuckin republican logic here. Vote in the fuckin primaries. If you didn’t vote in the fuckin primaries then you are part of the problem. Once fuckin again my position consists of VOTE IN THE FUCKING PRIMARIES. Fuck the rest of your bullshit.
Lol “fucking show me fucking proof” “argh! Fuck! fuck your fucking proof motherfucker!”
Waking up into the hell where you don’t have power in the bureaucracy you were taught was why America made so many people suffer, is hard. I understand why you don’t wanna wanna wanna!🫂
Prove they vote in primaries once you learn reading comprehension.
Leftists do vote in the primaries. They vote more then centrists do. That’s not in doubt. The question is how we are supposed to handle the traitors. What do you do with snakes that hide their colors during the primary, but then betray the base during the general? You could say, “just vote for the traitor now, and vote them out next primary,” but that’s tone-deaf advice. First it rewards traitors. Second, when the next election comes around, suddenly the same exact people telling you “wait til the next primary” change their tune to “we can’t give up an incumbent seat in Ohio, this primary challenge is irresponsible!”
For liberals, there simply is never a proper time to punish libshit dems that betray their voters.
No they didn’t. If they did, we’d have a large progressive wing of the Dem party. We don’t, because leftists don’t fucking vote. Got any numbers to back up your bullshit? Gonna report this comment too so you you can try to look like you’re engaging in good faith? We both know better though don’t we?
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