Why passkeys are a step back for personal security: examining account lockout risks, platform lock-in, hardware key limits, and fragile recovery flows.
No, Passkeys are generated on device against a public key on the server side. If you lose the device where you created your local, private key, then you lose access to everything. Also there’s FIDO (and implementations as YubiKey and NitroKey).
This is a good encapsulation of why passkeys are having a hard time. There are so many different ways to interact and it’s confusing for the user. There are physical FIDO keys, there are keys you create per device, then there are passkeys that the “device” is a password manager like bitwarden which is cloud based and follows you from wherever. It feels like they offer very different levels of security but do not look very different to the passkey issuer.
Yeah, also cloud providers can easily lock-in yourself, and self host is a pain in the ass and availability with that method is a problem, especially if where you live there are problems with the power supply (even if you use battery equipment it can be a problem if you go many hours without electric service).
That’s not how it is and not how they were designed. It was assumed from the beginning that they would live in “an ecosystem”, ie tied to secure storage and secure distribution by some system handled user side and indeed that is what phase 1 looked like: Google, Microsoft and Apple stored them on your device and replicated them across your devices. Phase 2 introduced a “interception” API so other providers could get involved easily - so providers like 1Password could rely less on browser hacks and also offer secure storage and secure distribution. Then finally, phase 3, now more or less locked down, described a portability system so that you can migrate to other ecosystems.
Love them.
Using 1Password for sync.
Never ever failed to connect to QR code passkey request, even on weird corporate networks.
Portability has gotten so much better - there’s now a defined standard for portability that passkey providers are implementing.
Honestly I cannot understand the criticism at all.
I lose physical objects. That’s mine.
Passkeys don’t require physical storage at all. All of my passkeys are in the cloud, synced across platforms.
No, Passkeys are generated on device against a public key on the server side. If you lose the device where you created your local, private key, then you lose access to everything. Also there’s FIDO (and implementations as YubiKey and NitroKey).
This is a good encapsulation of why passkeys are having a hard time. There are so many different ways to interact and it’s confusing for the user. There are physical FIDO keys, there are keys you create per device, then there are passkeys that the “device” is a password manager like bitwarden which is cloud based and follows you from wherever. It feels like they offer very different levels of security but do not look very different to the passkey issuer.
Yeah, also cloud providers can easily lock-in yourself, and self host is a pain in the ass and availability with that method is a problem, especially if where you live there are problems with the power supply (even if you use battery equipment it can be a problem if you go many hours without electric service).
That’s not how it is and not how they were designed. It was assumed from the beginning that they would live in “an ecosystem”, ie tied to secure storage and secure distribution by some system handled user side and indeed that is what phase 1 looked like: Google, Microsoft and Apple stored them on your device and replicated them across your devices. Phase 2 introduced a “interception” API so other providers could get involved easily - so providers like 1Password could rely less on browser hacks and also offer secure storage and secure distribution. Then finally, phase 3, now more or less locked down, described a portability system so that you can migrate to other ecosystems.