Hey folks, I have several accounts across the fediverse (Lemmy, pixelfed, mastodon, bookwyrm), and I think it would be neat to have a single identity across all these platforms.
I’m an amateur self hoster, and was looking into Rebased, a fork of Pleroma. If I were to create a single user instance on rebased, what would I be missing over these accounts on all these services? Could I still use the different apps? (Blorp, Pachli, Rocinante). Would I be missing features?
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Hey folks, I have several accounts across the fediverse (Lemmy, pixelfed, mastodon, bookwyrm), and I think it would be neat to have a single identity across all these platforms.
This is just something ActivityPub just doesn’t handle very well. It’s one of the things AT Proto (Bluesky, Tangled) handles a lot better and hopefully something we steal from it.
Rebased, a fork of Pleroma
The TERF fork?
Could I still use the different apps? (Blorp, Pachli, Rocinante). Would I be missing features?
No, these apps depend on the various platform APIs. Pachli might work, depending on how Mastodon-compatible Pleroma’s API is, but Blorp and Rocinante will not.
My very rough understanding is that ActivityPub is strictly about the protocol of the content and nothing to do with how it’s handled past showing it. So accounts and interfaces aren’t even part of it. Now, could a subset of it, or a parallel protocol for account handling be done (or maybe it is?) It would indeed be nice to have even more feel of a singular “system” but still the pluses of federated across various methods. It might also help fight against some of the bots/spammers who use the many-faced instances to do their stuff making it harder to pin them down.
Oh man, I was going to use rebased since I heard the pleroma folks sucked. Guess I need to do more research.
What exactly is it that you heard about the Pleroma devs? As far as I’ve seen the only people who seem to have something against them always vague post and never specify what is it that bothers them.
They are right-wing “free speech” / 4chan chuds, that tollerated until very recently an even worse dev that is trolling a lot as a TERF, currently works for Truth Social (Trump’s MAGA cesspit) and also made the Rebased fork after being finally kicked out.
The codebase is also a mess full of half-baked ideas. A few years ago the more reasonable people forked off Pleroma into Akkoma and spend significant time cleaning up the codebase.
@poVoq @Aeder It sounds like you’re talking about #AlexGleason (not tagging him cuz IDK if he wants to be in this thread.
He actually clashed with the #Pleroma devs and some admins quite a bit while he was working on #Rebased, I forget what about.
I just use Akkoma and their forks because of that.
Though, I don’t like that you conflate free speech defenders with the right-wing.
This is why I put it as “free speech”. Sadly the alt-right has pretty much captured the term in english speaking online spaces. Some people also started to call the alt-right interpretation of it “freeze peach” because of that.
Yeah, I can understand your point. I was just trying to make it clear.
Anyways, free speech forever! Kill the right-wing!
I’m probably just parroting vague vibes like you say. The first time I heard of pleroma was in the context of Lemmy.world defederating from a ton of pleroma instances that were far right, or otherwise undesirable. But that’s more the users and not the software itself.
@srasmus @Aeder Figured I’d chime in as I’ve been on the #Fediverse for as long as #Gab joined it (as it was, interestingly enough, the first #Fediverse instance I’ve ever been on!).
The #Pleroma userbase is the most diverse that you’ll find on the #Fediverse. You’ve got crazy alt right folks, gooners, pedophiles, left wingers (usually left wing #Pleroma users will be #trans who just want to self host or be on a super small instance) and more. /1
@srasmus @Aeder A good rule of thumb is to consider muting the ten or so biggest #Pleroma instances if you don’t have the stomach to come across edgy or undesirable content while on the #Fediverse.
Better use Akkoma. Rebased is made by really shitty people that even the Pleroma people kicked out if I remember correctly.
Compatibility between Lemmy etc. and Pleroma etc. isn’t the best, since the latter has no concept of communities.
Maybe you could try Mbin or the experimental support in Piefed to also subscribe to personal microblogs. That will be probably the closest to a single app that does both.
But the Mastodon compatible apps will not work with that (and anyway have no concept of communities or groups).
Rebased is just a fork of Pleroma. It is meant to work as a microblogging application and last I checked it didn’t do anything too different from Mastodon.
Rebased has integrated full support of Mobilizon events
I had the same idea but I fear having accounts on each instance is still a better idea. Because whenever your primary (acting as the identity provider) server is down, you can’t login to other instances as well albeit your previous session might continue to work. And on fediverse, outages are more common. So….
AFAIK Rebased does not interoperate with Threadiverse better than upstream Pleroma. They mainly added support of events with full interoperability with Mobilizon.
This said, most that Feediverse ;) (microblogging) apps have achieved with Threadiverse is ability to follow comms from here and post to them.
You may be interested in Catodon (although it contains vibed code)
Hey folks, I have several accounts across the fediverse (Lemmy, pixelfed, mastodon, bookwyrm), and I think it would be neat to have a single identity across all these platforms.
This would be possible if they all implemented nomadic identity.
But for starters, nomadic identity via ActivityPub (as opposed to via Zot/Nomad) is still quite young. No Fediverse server application has ever successfully been converted from non-nomadic and account = identity to Forte’s level of nomadic identity (which ActivityPub-based Forte has inherited from Nomad-based (streams)).
Besides, even if some Fediverse server app actually managed to go all the way in converting to full nomadicity, I can’t see Mastodon do that. Or Lemmy, for that matter.
And even nomadic identity would require you to have separate accounts on Lemmy and Pixelfed and Mastodon and BookWyrm. Even if your identity was spread across Lemmy and Pixelfed and Mastodon and BookWyrm servers. For your identity does not include your login credentials.
What you will definitely not get is a “pan-Fediverse” login (create a Lemmy or Mastodon account and be able to use it to log into any server of any Fediverse application and use it like with a local account). There’s a whole pile of reasons why this will never happen.
I don’t understand the Fediverse entirely. So I don’t understand why this is necessary. I thought these were all connected already. I’m from lemmy.world, looks like you’re from slrpnk.net, I see others from piefed.zip, lemmy.ml, feddit.uk, communick.news, fedia.io, etc. etc.
Don’t we all already have a single identity across all these platforms?
Sort of. Every account on Lemmy federates with other Lemmy accounts using the activity pub protocol, but that protocol is vast and the way to implement it is left up to individual app developers. Some apps do tweet like posts very well but not reddit like posts at all. Some do both. Some do other weird stuff like bookwyrm where they use “ordered collections” to store book lists. So you can see Lemmy accounts on mastodon but it doesn’t work perfectly all the time.
It would be neat to have an easily self-hostable server&client with the main types of fediverse services (Lemmy, Mastodon, Peertube) all in one, under one account.
