Employees quitting their jobs at orphancrusher.com.
Good.
employees are not good people and not innocent,they should get charged anything under the sun when then company goes under
It just depends I guess. It’s like WW2, do you put every soldier on trial for genocide? It would take a decade plus, and you can’t just lump them together and say “you’re all guilty” of the same thing, 5 years. You’d have to have due process for every single person with evidence.
do you put every soldier on trial for genocide?
Stalin proposed executing 50,000–100,000 German officers so that Germany could not plan another war. Roosevelt joked that “maybe 49,000 would be enough”. Churchill, however, was outraged and denounced “the cold-blooded execution of soldiers who fought for their country”.
:-|
You’d have to have due process for every single person with evidence.
We prosecuted US mafias and cartels en mass fairly recently. The Mafia Commission Trial prosecuted eleven leading organized crime figures at once. The Atlanta Public Schools cheating scandal trial involved 35 defendants, simultaneously. The Chicago Seven trial originally involved eight defendants at once (reduced to seven when Bobby Seale’s case was declared a mistrial after the judge effectively tortured him in front of the jury).
That said, conspiracy trials only need to link the defendants within a chain of action. They don’t need individual trials for each defendant. “We can prove all these people were in the same organization together planning to do a crime” is sufficient to prosecute them as a unit.
It was doable if you cut out the trial part. Plans were contemplated by the allies. Should have followed through.
Honestly yah they should, big dif today is that we have detailed files on these people though employment and company records, another dif is that this company was evil from the start unlike the German army that got hyjacked, back then I would have said every officer and every senior NCO is getting trialed. These days we have more info so it’s even easier to determine guilt.
It’s not a good start. Good start would be to sabotage company the first day they discovered what they are doing, You are all in delulu
Kinda difficult to be unemployed under capitalism.
This is a good start at least. I wish people who work for ICE do the same.
Hell no. It’s the only semblance of power those people have. They’d never quit.
as they should be, but cities are swithcing over to AXON, MOTOROLA and others but with more obscure cameras.
I’m possibly losing my job and currently job-hunting. I’ve seen open positions for Palantir and Flock and would sooner be dead than working for them.
just apply but have an AI write everything as if you are a suberp candidate, just to increase their workload. In the least they will have to google you to see you don’t exist.
You should still apply, though. Because people hate them, they likely need to offer higher salaries to compensate, just like Meta does. You can use these high offers to negotiate a better salary at a more palatable company. Also, it wastes the time of a scumbag company, so win-win.
Do we really want to put other, ethical companies under strain just because anti-ethical companies have lots of dirty cash pumped into them to pay higher?
you don’t have to use the leverage unless you need to
better to be prepared
I’ve yet to apply to a company that didn’t low ball me on the contract offer
Yes?
After a certain level of salary, I’d rather work for an ethical company than get more money. I’d also rather ethical companies don’t collapse.
So I’d say No.
In the absence of unionization, the worker should take every opportunity to bolster their position in the employer/employee power imbalance
Even a union will balance pay demands against other benefits.
gum up thier hiring system and then dont show up.
It’s a good start, but there’s a lot more work to do
Now do Axxon!
MOTOROLA is another.
Good, now do all the other fascist enabling tech companies too.
Uh oh, we’ve accidentally dismantled the entire system of capitalism.
we did it, reddit
We need to spread this to the other mass surveillance companies, starting with Palantir.
Sadly Palantir works in the shadows unlike Flock, harder to point out to people
The most easily recognizable by people would be Google and Meta. Those two top the charts for non-consensual surveillance. I think those to need to be reigned in big time, along with some of the other big tech companies. All are anti-consumer. I guess at least those try to have some level of transparency, but they still have awful business practices.
I’ve seen Palantir employees in Charlottenburg while visiting Berlin in 2023 ;) They are not as invisible as you would think. They’ll wear clothing from Patagonia with the branding
I don’t have that kind of faith in humanity.
Flock has failed but they really just serve as a demonstration of what not to do, for dozens of other companies.
People much smarter than me will have already mapped it out.
What’s the name of the alternative camera company thats been gaining ground while folks are angry about flock?
Axon, same company that makes body cameras for police
Axon, Genetec, Vigilant (Motorola), Rekor, Leonardo… A lot of them and the tech is pretty easy so a hundred other smaller companies. It needs to be banned at the national level by law for any actual change, but good luck convincing the government not to build out the Panopticon they seem to want so badly.
I have some hope that counties and states will end up making different contracts with different companies at different times, and that interoperability will be a very late afterthought just like it is in the rest of the proprietary software world, leaving various jurisdictions with many uncoordinated and incompatible databases and applications. Every proprietary software maker does the same thing, they don’t make their data system open or accessible unless some outside pressure forces it.
Also some states and counties are putting bans or other regulatory restrictions in place, which will help add to the general confusion and compatibility issues.
For those of you working in tech fields that may be related, now is the time to take all of the lessons you’ve learned about how bad, selfish proprietary software is made, all the annoyances and roadblocks you’ve run into over the years trying to make disparate bits of technology work together, and start implementing those as features. If someone questions it, tell them it’s necessary to protect company intellectual property. Make it clunky.
Thank you for the list! ❤️
Good.
GOOD.
Burn this fucking company and any like it to the ground.
Feels nice to wake up to good news for once.
