• borQue@lemmy.zip
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    4 hours ago

    Russia has no own processor production. ICL is one of the few Russian PC brands which uses AMD and Intel… So in fact there are no “Russian” pc’s…

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      Russia has some Elbrus CPUs locally produced, but they are very outdated and very expensive, and also have a different processor architecture, so they find limited use. Apparently, they didn’t bother supplying one for the President.

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      Agreed, but they have some amazing hacks using older architectures. They do produce motherboards and other components though so it’s still surprising they are using a dell.

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      Considering that Russia has at least 4 major domestic Linux distros (Astra, Alt, ROSA, RED OS), I can only guess why they didn’t.

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    Voting doesn’t need to be secure in Russia because voting doesn’t actually matter in Russia.

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      I suppose people allowed near him are already sufficiently background-checked and threat-impressed.

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      Because Windows is spyware.

      Why would they want people to have more privacy?

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      Russia is so brain drained that they couldn’t even roll their own distro if they wanted to let alone figure out how to at least obfuscate the government malware.

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        Fact check: Russia has at least four domestic Linux distributions (Astra, ALT, ROSA, RED), all of them perfectly functional. They feature editions complying with Russian regulations for enterprise use, and offer simpler options for personal/educational use.

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        This can’t be the reason since they still have people like fancy bear and a lot of tools in the hardware hacking scene / piracy are russian, for example makemkv. You also don’t need no scientists to roll out linux. But I would also like to know the real reason since a lot of russian tools are also windows based which is kinda paradoxical.

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          a lot of russian tools are also windows based which is kinda paradoxical.

          If your main target is windows it makes sense.

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            Working on the system your targeting gives you additional experience but I wouldn’t develop my own tools for the os I am targeting.

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          And why would these people want to work with the ruzi government? The pay is terrible, the risk is high and limit your future career opportunities?

          Russia simply doesn’t make anything consumer facing except weapons and rockets.

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            I mean like in the case of fancy bear they do work for the government. It gives you immunity to target everyone outside of russia. Look at the amount of ransomware that is operated from within russia.

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            How do you know the pay is terrible?

            Qualified people seem to work for drug cartels and slavers. I’m certain a nation-state can provide both pay and conscience better than that.

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              Maybe it could be great but good devs have the privilege to avoid this risk and go work abroad. I live in thailand and I speak russian so I’m familiar with russian devs escaping russia and tbh it’s very easy these days with how easy it is to open a company in Singapore or Delaware.

              Worth noting that rolling your own country wide spying distro wouldn’t be as easy as one might think given that Linux kernel dev must follow US sanctions and there is some serious work there when it comes to hiding spyware effectively for at least plausible deniability, russia is not quite North Korea just yet.

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                Ok interesting input. To me it seemed like working for the government in russia gives you exceptional privileges above the rest of the society and the opportunity to stay with your relatives. For the spying distro part. It doesn’t necessarily need to be linux based or based on a western distro since harmony os is also linux based and other kernels exist as well. I also thought more about the government itself and not the broad public. For the public they are already establishing their super app Max with such features.

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          You don’t need to be able to build stable functional software to be a hacker. They’re kinda polar opposites

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            To create a linux distribution under your own control you don’t even need to engineer anything new. You need to create deployment structures but the tools for repository hosting, package managers, build services, automation and pki are already there. It’s more about curating software and sometimes auditing or changing code. Someone who’s capable of reverse engineering Blu-ray player firmware should be able to learn this as well.

            Edit: ‘A new distro’ is also a spectrum. It’s a big reach from creating a debian distro with some version differences to something like openwrt or asahi linux

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            Like saying you don’t need to be a structural engineer to demolish a skyscraper. You need to be pretty well versed in computer science to be able to hack a system to any reasonable extent. If you just go ham at it and just press random buttons nothing is going to happen / you’re going to be detected.

            Hackers write programmes all of the time.

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              Not really. Big different between programs and systems. Saying ‘good at doing teh codez’ is just one set of skills is nonsense. And being a structural engineer is not sufficient to build a skyscraper anyway. In the immortal words of Le Corbusier, they’re machines for living in. Which is why architect is a different career from structural engineer and both get involved. Your exanple undermines your own point.

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    His Windows being unlicensed makes perfect sense. Why would he give money to Microsoft? In fact, why would you?

    As for the PC - there are no Russian PCs, so he has to use something foreign. DELLs are very solid, and great for the price if you get them refurbished.

    Not as solid as Lenovo, which also has considerably fewer American companies in its supply chain. But maybe they just got a good deal on a bunch of DELLs.

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      His Windows being unlicensed makes perfect sense.

      No, it just shows incompetence.

      pykms isn’t hard…

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      Of what I’ve heard about Putin and computers, it’s very probable this PC is running some hardened Linux distribution made look like Windows, or even a specialized OS developed for him specifically, and all it does is show previously prepared pictures and run some narrow-function native applications too developed specifically for the occasion.

      And it’s probably not a persistent installation. And it’ll probably be destroyed after he’s done with voting or “voting”.

      And I can’t imagine it not being air-gapped with the kind of security measures they write about in other things.

      And I’m probably confidently wrong in many things, just the security part with computers that man seems to take seriously enough.

      Honestly this is right, when you are considering how wary you should be of this or that thing, it’s good to pay attention to what powerful people are doing of what seems more or less certain. They, of course, can afford some things impractical for you or me.

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        it’s very probable this PC is running some hardened Linux distribution made look like Windows

        Instead of using Wine it uses Vodka

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        Or, It’s just a newly set up computer used for a quick photo op and will either go back to whoever’s desk it was taken from or put in a cupboard somewhere. That is not a desktop set up for daily use.

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          Just know that someone at one point in time jerked off to you or will jerk off to you. This is called the circle of life. For every creature there’s a creature that jerks off to it. But at the very top of the circle there’s a creature that no one jerks off to, that’s the apex masturbator.

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      I switched to Linux after a Windows 10 LTSC security update failed to install. It’s been great, highly reccomend. You should keep a hard drive backup, though.

      If you’re on Windows 11 then your machine has a unique global identifier being sent to the sites you visit.

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        Yes. Thank you for interest in my privacy. I definitely don’t need Windows knowing how much prolapse porn I like to watch.

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    Plot twist: it’s not connected to the Internet. He has a button labeled “PRESS TO WIN ELECTION” installed in his dacha.