• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    now they are stealing our technologies before we have them ourselves!!

    I remember when “Chinese students can’t come up with anything new because they’re too indoctrinated by Communist authoritarianism” was a thing normal people genuinely believed.

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        7 hours ago

        Well, sure, except for the enormous bits where it isn’t.

        But that’s mixed economies for you. They’re simultaneously too capitalist and not capitalist enough, depending on who is angry at them.

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      1 day ago

      Yes I’ve seen something in that line of thinking as well. But even if China has schools that are not top notch, they have sent students to other countries to learn for about 50 years. And their own top schools are among the best in the world now.

      https://www.topuniversities.com/world-university-rankings

      #11 in Hong Kong and #13 in Peking.
      IDK if the list is entirely fair, I imagine having a good and long track record could have an influence.
      China has been investing heavily in research and education, several times more than what we do in Europe and USA.
      So it’s no wonder they are catching up, and even passing us now.

      Funny to see how we both got a downvote? 😋🤣
      Maybe someone still believing in the superiority of the west, which clearly we don’t have a monopoly on anymore, China has caught up, exactly as Japan and Korea have done before China.

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        22 hours ago

        Maybe someone still believing in the superiority of the west, which clearly we don’t have a monopoly on anymore, China has caught up, exactly as Japan and Korea have done before China.

        I genuinely is curious to see the exact same propaganda rolled out against China that Americans deployed against the other Eastern Rim industrial states. India is, similarly, getting a ton of this treatment.

        The big difference between China and India/Japan/Korea is the failure of the Chinese government to placidly ingest western neoliberal economic policy and stagnate their economies for a decade as a result.

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          10 hours ago

          Absolutely, China being communist makes them the enemy.
          But to be fair, capitalism is also a declared enemy to communist countries.
          Both are equally wrong.

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            7 hours ago

            capitalism is also a declared enemy to communist countries

            Colonialism tends to be the explicit professed enemy. Communism, as a practical economic policy, revolves around securing domestic resources for the benefit of the local public. China’s managed this phenomenally.

            What Chinese policymakers object to is extraction of Chinese surplus at a loss. And foreign capitalists hate this, because it cuts into their profits.

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        23 hours ago

        you were probably downvoted because it’s completely unnecessary and off topic. no one was going to bring this up but you.

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          14 hours ago

          OK admittedly it’s not really relevant, it was merely a joke.
          But you can’t honestly claim to not have seen those moronic posts about how China never invents anything and only steal their technologies from the west.
          They are so common it’s insanely tiresome. In this thread there are none, maybe because in this case China obviously developed and invented it themselves.