• schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works
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    I’ll take my chances with the CCP over ICE any fucking day of the year.

    We are always under more threat from our own governments than a foreign one and I do not live in China or China-aligned country. I’m safer with my data in Beijing than in Redmond.

    And that’s the worst case scenario. Likely, it’s enough of a win for China to have an OS that the US doesn’t have backdoors into without China needing their own.

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        That’s the point: I don’t even know the name of the Chinese agency I would even theoretically need to worry about.

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          Back when Grindr was owned by a Chinese company there was concerns that data from the platform could be used to blackmail western politicians and civil servants.

          I can’t remember the details but my point is - just because you don’t live in China it doesn’t mean you’re risk free.

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            I’m neither a politician nor a civil servant, and if I were, as a leftist, I’d be more threatened by Trump having my data than Xi Jinping.

            Do I just keep repeating this or…?

            Edit: yeah, as yourself point out: the threat China poses is giving your data to your government. lol

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            I find your inability to understand why an American is more afraid of ICE than a Chinese government agency really perplexing.

            But, in honor of your concern, I will forthwith carry a rock that keeps away Chinese agents.

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              I find your inability to understand why an American is more afraid of ICE than a Chinese government agency really perplexing.

              that’s. not. what. you. were. saying.

              you are just ignorant and proud of it.

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                Honestly, that was the sum totality of my intention. If you would like to review the logs and tell me where my language reflected differently, I would love to know about it because I never had an intent to say anything else.

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            Not proud, not ashamed. I’m just using my ignorance of something to evaluate a risk, which is certainly a flawed and lazy algorithm, but probably operates better than chance.

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      Your data is going to the US government and data brokers, even if you don’t know it.

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        Source that China is using its backdoors to share information with the US? I mean, it very well might be, at least it’s an extra step. I’m saying I’d rather not share my information with anyone, but if i had to choose, it would be a foreign government ahead of my own.

        I’m not sure where I’m going wrong, there.

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          Not what I meant, the US is grabbing all the information on their own, don’t think they aren’t. Maybe some of you more sophisticated computer heads can avoid it, but I wouldn’t expect it.

          They have everything compromised on a basic level, basic levels. China could sell your information back to the US too though in some kind of deal.

          But yeah I agree, I’d rather have foreign governments having it than mine own. But it’s near impossible for a layman, or person without substantial resources, to keep their information out of the hands of the NSA and data brokers, I strongly suspect, as Edward Snowden informed us.

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            Yup. And if I were a foreign government interested in collecting data, I’d definitely start up a low-cost VPN. You can’t trust anyone.