• hansolo@lemmy.today
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    21 hours ago

    Yes, that’s how national standards work.

    You also can’t import a Japanese-made vehicle to the US until it’s 25 or more years old because the safety specs are different.

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      20 hours ago

      And almost all US market vehicles are not up to Canadian standards - starting with the Canadian requirement to have driver adjustable headlight elevation trim…

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          Especially for vehicles that tow trailers and the trailer tongue weight pushes the angle of the whole vehicle up…

          Of course we don’t have them in the US because, unlike Canada, we have far too many drivers who would adjust them up just to be jerks blinding other drivers on purpose.

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      That’s just what they want you to believe. Cars have to be 25 years old before they can be imported, because Mercedes dealerships where butthurt about ⅕ beamers being imports four decades ago.
      Technology connections on YouTube touched on it in a video, if I recall right domestic sales went up a couple percent for Mercedes dealerships, no where remotely close to +20%.

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      21 hours ago

      Not only that but Toyota as an example does a lot to localize their products. So for example, a Toyota built in the Northern parts of North America will have better winterizing. Whereas a Toyota built in a coastal area like much of Japan will be resistant to salt water spray.

      While OP is trying to imply that Toyota is selling crap to American’s because they think Americans are so stupid they’ll never noticed, the fact is that a car built for Japan will not last as long in America as a car built for Americans.

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        the fact is that a car built for Japan will not last as long in America as a car built for Americans.

        This was really noticeable with 1970’s japanese vehicles. They weren’t great. But they improved.

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    Then why doesn’t Toyota and Nissan do something about it? It’s their product, regardless of where it’s made.

    Also why are they shipping vehicles with software created for North America then acting like it’s Americans faults that features don’t work or only come in English, French and Spanish.

    Sounds like they’re making bad decisions and trying to blame it on cultural differences

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      Saving face is a much bigger priority in japan than in the US, and since its americans working in the us, why even bother

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      The issue is when you build in North America, you have to deal with local parts suppliers for all parts and subassemblies. Then you have a problem of the North American culture of poor quality control and maximizing profit margins only. So you can have a great design, which works in Japan with Japanese suppliers, but then it falls apart with local parts makers in Canada and US. Some sub-assemblies cross the border 2-3X which just amplifies the typical shit quality of manufacturing in North America.

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        Don’t forget having to pay a bunch of lazy Americans high wages vs hard working and loyal Japanese drones who get paid less. I’m not exaggerating, loyalty to your employer is huge in Japan.

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      24 hours ago

      Welcome to capitalism everything you buys is the worst version someone can legally sell you for the most they can charge.

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      The imports are just to placate Trump around tariffs, and it’s not worth it to them to improve all cars made in America

      So they’re warning any Japanese buyers that if they buy it, they’re getting the lower quality models

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      They are probably only sending the bare minimum to make Trump happy. They don’t want to sell American made cars and trucks in Japan, so they are doing it badly.

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        7 hours ago

        40 years ago range rovers weren’t particularly big, nor much of a soccer mom car compared to what it is now

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          It’s the same customer: People buying the absolute largest car sold with features like off-road 4 wheel drive that they have absolutely no intention of using.

          If Range Rover offered a 3,000 kg car in 1985, soccer moms would have bought it.

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            It was a very different car. If you wanted the absolute largest, you bought American. Even in 2026, Range Rovers are small compared to what GM has to offer, but in the 1980s, the difference would’ve been even bigger since the Suburban and its derivatives have grown less. Go back to the early 80s or 70s and the Range Rover wasn’t even offered with 4 doors yet, it was even smaller.

            Put it this way: A Volkswagen Golf estate is now about the same size as the first 4 door Range Rovers. A regular Golf is a tiny bit shorter than the original Range Rovers (2 door). Current VW Passat is significantly bigger.

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      I saw one of their trucks in the UK yesterday as a company vehicle and I’m mad about it. A Toyota Wildtrak. On a road, owned by an estate agent, and in one of the flattest countries in the world.

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        wait until they start taking their dogs around in the bed because they don’t want to mess up their precious off-road interior

        buncha nancy asses

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        What? The Tacoma is an incredibly popular truck. If you go to Texas you’ll see all kinds of “Texas Edition” Toyota trucks.

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              Tacoma’s are popular in Texas because they’re made in Texas, it’s very much a regional thing. In the US overall the Tacoma(274,638) is the 5th best selling pick-up, being out sold by the GMC Sierra(356,218) in 4th. Tacoma was also out sold by the Camry(316,185) it really depends on what part of the country your in.

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                I mean, I’m in Wisconsin and knew it was popular and knew it was popular in Texas… Fifth best selling out of 11 trucks that I can think of off the top of my head means it’s more popular than most trucks.

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                  The person above said Toyota was known for sedans, you disagreed. I’m saying you’re both right depending on where you are. Here in NYC its all CUVs, Camrys, Corollas, and Prius. Other parts of the country it’s mostly Tacomas and Tundras.

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        Tacoma is a huge culture. The reason why they get stolen so much is they have such a good reputation in Africa and Eastern Europe. No one stealing an F150 to sell abroad.

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        Exactly which sedans are giant and\or shitty? Is it the Prius? Like the one I have that still runs great after nearly 300,000 miles? Or maybe the Corolla that’s probably the most famously well known reliable long term sedan to ever exist?