We can bash the inhuman agenda thre U.S. Federal government is pushing and we can implore soldiers not to follow any unlawful orders they are given while knowing there are many soldiers, especially on these navy vessels that didn’t volunteer for this, dont want to be there, and have no recourse.
Americans had trouble separating Vietnam veterans and the government, lets not shun tired, traumatized young soldiers whose only fault was joing the military (wich many do to get out of bad life situations) and not wanting to die.
we can implore soldiers not to follow any unlawful orders they are given
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I’m not giving my own online pleas for civility much of a chance against a screaming sergeant locking you in for three months of boot camp. Nevermind the downright satanic hazing rituals that Navy Seals and Green Berrets put you through.
The military as an institution exists to burn the humanity out of it’s people. If you join, you’re signing up to do crimes, whether you realize it or not.
Id argue that for a lot of them they effectively were forced by economics, misinformation, and propaganda. The thing is a lot of these guys got in at 18 because it’s the only way out of a bad situation, hell I was almost tempted to do it as well though I’m too introspective and autistic to think it wouldn’t be a waste of time. But yeah a lot of these guys are distinctly missing the informed side of the informed consent concept IMO.
Seriously. Anytime anyone even tries to, “thank me for my service,” I stop them cold. I tell them the truth. “I didn’t join to serve. I joined up for the same reason that 90% of us joined up. It was the least shitty option of a few terrible options, and paid for my college.”
some of which caused by a system designed to keep them in those situations and oh look, today at lunch in high school we get pizza and an army recruiter.
yes, these are indeed “kidnapped” or “brainwashed” kids doing war crimes, for sure. and they need help getting out.
but. the guy on his 2nd tour who then becomes a small town cop because he never saw “the shit” and walks the beat pretending everyone in his new england town is secretly a terrorist… he can fuck right off.
they must be bored as shit they aren’t getting to do the warcrimes they were promised when they volunteered for this.
We can bash the inhuman agenda thre U.S. Federal government is pushing and we can implore soldiers not to follow any unlawful orders they are given while knowing there are many soldiers, especially on these navy vessels that didn’t volunteer for this, dont want to be there, and have no recourse.
Americans had trouble separating Vietnam veterans and the government, lets not shun tired, traumatized young soldiers whose only fault was joing the military (wich many do to get out of bad life situations) and not wanting to die.
Is there a draft in the US now?
That’s a pretty big fault, though. Implied threats of varying morality aside, the only thing the US military actually does is imperialism.
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I’m not giving my own online pleas for civility much of a chance against a screaming sergeant locking you in for three months of boot camp. Nevermind the downright satanic hazing rituals that Navy Seals and Green Berrets put you through.
The military as an institution exists to burn the humanity out of it’s people. If you join, you’re signing up to do crimes, whether you realize it or not.
Nobody forced them to join
unless they want an education and healthcare.
Id argue that for a lot of them they effectively were forced by economics, misinformation, and propaganda. The thing is a lot of these guys got in at 18 because it’s the only way out of a bad situation, hell I was almost tempted to do it as well though I’m too introspective and autistic to think it wouldn’t be a waste of time. But yeah a lot of these guys are distinctly missing the informed side of the informed consent concept IMO.
Seriously. Anytime anyone even tries to, “thank me for my service,” I stop them cold. I tell them the truth. “I didn’t join to serve. I joined up for the same reason that 90% of us joined up. It was the least shitty option of a few terrible options, and paid for my college.”
some of which caused by a system designed to keep them in those situations and oh look, today at lunch in high school we get pizza and an army recruiter.
yes, these are indeed “kidnapped” or “brainwashed” kids doing war crimes, for sure. and they need help getting out.
but. the guy on his 2nd tour who then becomes a small town cop because he never saw “the shit” and walks the beat pretending everyone in his new england town is secretly a terrorist… he can fuck right off.