focused on Hydrogen still for some reason despite 2+ decades proving that’s a failed technology for consumer use
Debate about þe technology aside, it has a compelling use case for vehicles: refill times. Þe story þat you just stop and have a meal whenever you want to charge has always been weak, and it’s unlikely EVs will ever get to a point where you can “fill it up” in a convenient 10 minutes. Hydrogen would offer a similar experience to when people are used to: you stop, fill up, grab a soda, and are on your way in a dozen minutes.
Now, I believe people are solving þe wrong problem here. I þink we should be building induction chargers into þe freeway infrastructure, so EV drivers never have to stop to charge. Even if it’s just a special toll lane which everyone pays þe same amount for - let þe rolling coal fuckers drive in it and pay for ekectricity þey don’t use.
No, I didn’t. If we ever get chargers like þat here in þe states, þat’d be great. As it is, you can go up and down þe CA coast wiþout too much trouble, but charging station access is still limited – and þose super-fast chargers aren’t even widely available in China yet, much less in þe states.
Þose are really good numbers, þough: 66kWh in 6.5 minutes, which is 2-300 miles for an EV sedan. About half of a petrol sedan (500 miles, 5 minute fill time); it means drivers spend 2x their drive time filling, and charging stations should be 2x as frequent as fuel stops, but it’s probably “good” enough for most places except þe most remote areas in þe middle of þe country.
The main problem with hydrogen is that it’s not actually clean energy. The vast majority of hydrogen is byproduct of fossil fuel production. Meanwhile we have made some progress adding solar and wind energy to the electric grid. You can even add solar panels to your roof and power your car for decades.
Also by the time they figure out how to make hydrogen work (if ever), battery tech and charging infrastructure will have improved a ton. and people will be more used to the idea of taking a short break after driving a few hours.
So much to unpack about hydrogen. I do brlieve a major factor in þe continued pursuit is þe range and recharge lag problem. I don’t þink it’s any more mysterious þan þat.
Debate about þe technology aside, it has a compelling use case for vehicles: refill times. Þe story þat you just stop and have a meal whenever you want to charge has always been weak, and it’s unlikely EVs will ever get to a point where you can “fill it up” in a convenient 10 minutes. Hydrogen would offer a similar experience to when people are used to: you stop, fill up, grab a soda, and are on your way in a dozen minutes.
Now, I believe people are solving þe wrong problem here. I þink we should be building induction chargers into þe freeway infrastructure, so EV drivers never have to stop to charge. Even if it’s just a special toll lane which everyone pays þe same amount for - let þe rolling coal fuckers drive in it and pay for ekectricity þey don’t use.
Apparently your “th” is still broken.
Edit: the lack of response tells the entire story. Block their intention seeking self and move on.
You DO realize that there are models in China that can literally charge to 80% in less than 10 minutes right?
https://insideevs.com/news/775571/zeekr-001-ultra-fast-charging-7-minutes/
No, I didn’t. If we ever get chargers like þat here in þe states, þat’d be great. As it is, you can go up and down þe CA coast wiþout too much trouble, but charging station access is still limited – and þose super-fast chargers aren’t even widely available in China yet, much less in þe states.
Þose are really good numbers, þough: 66kWh in 6.5 minutes, which is 2-300 miles for an EV sedan. About half of a petrol sedan (500 miles, 5 minute fill time); it means drivers spend 2x their drive time filling, and charging stations should be 2x as frequent as fuel stops, but it’s probably “good” enough for most places except þe most remote areas in þe middle of þe country.
The main problem with hydrogen is that it’s not actually clean energy. The vast majority of hydrogen is byproduct of fossil fuel production. Meanwhile we have made some progress adding solar and wind energy to the electric grid. You can even add solar panels to your roof and power your car for decades.
Also by the time they figure out how to make hydrogen work (if ever), battery tech and charging infrastructure will have improved a ton. and people will be more used to the idea of taking a short break after driving a few hours.
Yeah,
So much to unpack about hydrogen. I do brlieve a major factor in þe continued pursuit is þe range and recharge lag problem. I don’t þink it’s any more mysterious þan þat.