• joe@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Getting rid of a specific holiday is wildly different than getting rid of all holidays. I have it on good authority that you can cook turkey and stuffing on any day you’d like.

    However, I’m more confused at your overall point now. If Thanksgiving-gate is such a huge deal, why do you think she will win?

    Maybe we should take a step and reset? What precisely are you saying?

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      6 hours ago

      She has tweets saying she would ban Halloween, that she wants to cancel Thanksgiving, she thinks Valentines Day brings out ‘the worst in humanity’, and more.

      No, I’m talking about Francesca Hong - the woman that is likely going to cause a MAGA win in the Wisconsin governor race.

      I think she’s going to win the Democratic candidacy. I do not think she’s going to be governor, mainly because she’s anti-American and that is literally all MAGA needs to push to ensure everyone understands what they’re voting for.

      I can’t stress this enough, these people are not good for the United States. If your argument is that the U.S. is evil we can just stop discussing this now.

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        5 hours ago

        I appreciate the reset, thank you.

        I think that you’re taking a page out of the MAGA playbook. You clearly have an issue with the DSA, (and maybe progressives in general?) but instead of addressing their mainstream concerns, you’re looking for the most sensational opinions of one candidate and shouting that the sky is falling.

        People in this country are worried about keeping a roof over their heads, food on their table, affording the care to keep themselves healthy. The GOP is trying its damnedest to push us into full on fascism. There’s mind boggling amounts of corruption and grift going on in plain sight. Are you really telling me people are going to care even slightly about one candidate’s view on Valentine’s Day??

        Come on; give me a break. The only people that will (pretend to) care about that are people that were always going to vote MAGA anyway.

        Again, I really do appreciate the reset here. We were definitely talking past ench other for a bit there.

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          3 hours ago

          The only people that will (pretend to) care about that are people that were always going to vote MAGA anyway.

          No, they can also choose to not vote - which is good for the MAGA candidate.

          I’m just saying, swinging the pendulum to the opposite side is not how we solve extremism in this country. The DSA are advocating for the exact same extremism as MAGA - both roads lead to authoritarianism.

          I’m sorry for how adversarial I was, I’ve been dealing with some particularly shitty .ml individuals. I appreciate your candor.

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            3 hours ago

            I strongly disagree that DSA is as far left as MAGA is right.

            Democratic Socialist != Socialist. Universal Healthcare and a stronger social safety net have nothing to do with socialism.

            Is there a specific DSA policy you’re thinking of that goes too far left for you, personally?

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              3 hours ago

              I strongly disagree that DSA is as far left as MAGA is right.

              Brother I am currently arguing, as we speak, that I’m not transphobic to someone who routinely calls for death to America. I strongly suggest you take a look at what some of the more militant .ml users say to people who actually challenge them.

              Is there a specific DSA policy you’re thinking of that goes too far left for you, personally?

              Yes, abolishing prisons.

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                You can find crazy folks for any and every political persuasion. The DSA as a political party is different than some random online user. Not to mention that it’s within the realm of reason that people pretend to be progressive and intentionally say crazy stuff.

                Yes, abolishing prisons.

                Can you point me to where the DSA supports this? I vaguely recall one instance of someone in the DSA who tweeted something to this effect years back but has since adopted a more reasonable position. I apologise that I can’t remember who that is. Maybe the same person you’re talking about.

                In any event, it’s not a platform the DSA as a whole supports. Do you understand the distinction? There are/were “pro life” Democrats but the Democratic party policy is pro choice. Does that make sense?