• rumba@lemmy.zip
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    20 hours ago

    We’ve been voting for the Democrats to vote progressive for years.

    Let’s figure out an agreement and perhaps we’re on board.

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      19 hours ago

      It’s such weird phrasing. Encourage progressive voters to back democrats? The progressive candidates run as democrats. We’re trying to vote for democrats, and the bulk of voters have been clearly trying to get the entrenched democrats to get behind that and support them. But they keep not doing that.

      The voters aren’t supposed to follow the will of the party establishment. They’re supposed to follow the will of the voters. They have it all backwards and feel like they should get to vote whatever way they’re paid to vote on issues and that we’re the ones doing bad and causing Republicans to win if that causes us to lose trust in them

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        19 hours ago

        TBF, not voting for democrats in the next cycle or so might be the immediate end of democracy in the US, (you could make a convincing argument that it’s already dead.) But just letting them keep doing what they’re doing is just a slightly longer path to the same.

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          18 hours ago

          I think the vast majority of us are voting for democrats and will be. It seems to be a bad sign that instead of chiding the establishment about ignoring the will of the voters to force progressive candidates off the ballot in favor of their preferred corporate owned candidates Sanders has turned the other direction entirely and is now basically saying that even if the democrat party ignores the will of the voters whatever candidate they decide is best should get everyone’s full support.

          If the establishment is willing to ignore the will of the voters and do what they want instead then that’s already not a democracy. It would be like forcing a choice between corporate owned “democrats” who do what they’re paid to do and don’t care for the peasants at all or fascism. Sort of makes sense that there will be large numbers of people who select “Just fuck off then.”

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            2 hours ago

            Kinda fucking scary the only way to get representation is to go brewsters millions style and write in candidates…