• Wytch@lemmy.zip
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    Maybe something about watching your neighbor’s kids ziptied and used as bait to snatch their mom who’s been working her ass off

    Might not sit well with folks who thought their bills should be lower

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      I still find it baffling that people ever thought he would lower the price of anything other than corruption. Like, what in his first disaster of a term gave anyone the idea that he could drive prices down? He absolutely tanked the economy during covid and the before that it was only good on paper.

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        And deep down you know the hard truth is that they’re probably gonna do it again.

        Probably not trump, or any other person specifically. But similar.

        Probably not immediately. But down the line, those same people who are alive and experiencing this right now, are probably gonna fall for it again.

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        It takes a lot to get through to people. I don’t know how you raise kids and make ends meet on $9 an hour and also pay attention to politics. There are so many layers of systemic failure here that to blame each and every individual is only recognizing half the problem.

        I mean yeah we’re a wealthy nation and we’re lazy, ignorant, and complacent but we’re also overworked, underpaid, and victimized

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          It takes a lot to get through to people because most people have the attention span of a goldfish struggling for breath in a puddle on the floor next to the broken glass of their tiny fish tank.

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            They see the propaganda, they don’t have the time to dig any deeper than “Democrats are baby killers and Trump will create jobs”. The message was a lie, but short enough to get across.

            Democrats have terrible messaging, and aren’t even trying to hit some of these demographics. I’ve yet to see a good Spanish language mass media campaign. Some from NGOs, but none from the party.

            Texas would be blue if they could competently get out the Latino vote… Instead the white rural voters get to enact their terrible policies :_(

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              I knew the propaganda was working at least for their base when I saw them repeating along with Pence - “promises made, promises kept” and they even had a banner for it, LOL.

              To someone like me, it was like watching W stand in front of “Mission Accomplished” in the level of ridiculousness and brazen idiociy, but to the brainless monkeys in that crowd? Absolute truth.

              What promises were made and what were kept? I have no fucking idea what one of the base would have said in 2020 to that question.

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        The fact of the matter is, prices went up under Biden’s watch, and they were getting the wrong message from Democrats at the time, which was “hey, it’s all OK, trust us!”. And in a system where we only get two choices, that meant either sitting it out, or voting for the other guy one.

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          What the Democrats did not point out enough was that we were coming out of a Black Swan global event AND Russia attacked Ukraine. They don’t have to get into the details and working to bring relief would be welcome for sure, but it’s not like Biden caused either Covid or Russia’s aggression…

          When Biden left, virtually everything about the economy was headed in the right direction. Donvict was handed an economy that was called the envy of the world and still the big baby whines about it and proceeds to fuck it all up.

          I bet anything that if a Democrat gets in there, the Murc’s Law types will be immediately blaming the Democrats for not fixing things fast enough.

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            The economists agreed the economy was headed in the right direction as a whole, but those are the bottom weren’t seeing it. They vote, too, and will abandon candidates they think aren’t listening.

            It’s rather telling that amid all this controversy over the “DNC Autopsy”, the key point which the DNC seems to be ignoring is the fact that the political consultants that ran it were all well off, and didn’t see the same day-to-day pain that most people did. There is a reason why the term K-shaped economy is so popular.

            And yes, Trump won and he has made things so much worse. But was hard in 2024 to vote for “more of the same” when your situation has gotten worse.

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              the economy was headed in the right direction as a whole, but those are the bottom weren’t seeing it.

              Id go even farther than that. Biden started a lot of good things, not just the better economy, but way too much was longer term and no one has an attention span anymore. Too many voters can’t look at a chart and see “lines goes up” or a schedule and see “next decade is mighty fine”

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    Oh, how brave. So glad they turned their back on him after GETTING HIM ELECTED AND HAVING THE ENTIRE COUNTRY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE STUPIDITY OF THAT ACTION

    Oh man but at least they feel bad now or what the fuck ever.

    Jesus Christ.

    This reminds me of those dumb ass farmer Hicks who are all like “yeah its never been this bad I’m gonna have to sell my family farm of 3 generations!” And then every one of them still blame Biden and say they would vote for Trump. Have big old “TRUMP” and “fuck Joe and the hoe” all over their shit.

    Why can’t people that vote this way be the only ones to suffer and die for that why do the rest of us have to do it too?

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    I’ll believe it when I see it. There are still many millions, something close to one in three that decisively support him last time I read. They’re fully indoctrinated and reject anything that would challenge their worldview. They even reject their own eyes.

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      I’ll believe it when I see it.

      But where are you going to see it that you’d count it?

      Because this article didn’t meet that threshold?

      Do you want someone in a maga hat to approach you and say it?

      I’d like to think you’d realize they’d stop wearing the hat first, and long before approaching random strangers for that conversation you think will happen,ntheyll just not vote.

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        But where are you going to see it that you’d count it?

        At the ballot box. That’s really the only “survey” that matters. Everything else is just statisticians trying to justify their Masters degrees. I’m hopeful for midterms, but I’ve been so consistently disappointed by my peers that I’m refusing to get my hopes up until after the results are in.

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        I want to see results in actual polls that matter: people voting and supporting candidates that disagree with his values.

        It’s true that there have been some impressive wins in some elections, but at least in my state, it remains an intense Republican stronghold. Believe me, I’d love for that to change, but it seems highly unlikely. Support remains overwhelming in the only way that matters and that is continuing control by the party because voters still feel confident enough in Republicans. Hence, my family is planning on moving out of state to someplace that aligns better with the our values. I don’t appreciate threatening members of my family as part of their political rhetoric.

        I want to see a firm and unequivocal rejection of his hateful and self-destructive values through voting and protests. This is what I expect to see. It’s not nearly enough.

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          I want to see results in actual polls that matter: people voting and supporting candidates that disagree with his values.

          You mean the “polls that matter” are elections?

          And I’m assuming all the special elections don’t count (whatever that reason is) because those show what you’re looking for…

          Midterms are about to happen, and I’m sure after that you’ll have shiny new goalposts.

          And you think “protests” matter?

          Like, in your head if only X amount of Americans say it, trump will listen?

          You have no fucking idea about what you’re talking about.

          Which is fine, fucking normal even.

          But instead of asking questions so you can learn,you just keep making weird demands to people who will never see them.

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    I’m sure the many people who have died as a result of Trump being elected will thank them for their change of heart. /s

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    Can we stop this false narrative that Trump had big gains with black voters? He gained 2 pts with black men and lost 2 pts with black women compared to 2020. This is a MINORITY DEMOGRAPHIC, and he made virtually no gains.

    Trump won because young men shifted right and latinx men shifted like 40 pts to the right. That was the ball game.

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    And do they think Trump and Project 2025 will care about their opinion? Even if Trump leaves, the technofascists imprinted themselves all over the US institution. Next project will be Project 2060, war with China. And then finally, Project 2077-- which is to blow up the world for fiduciary responsibility. Enclave is real, boys and girls!

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    Have those voters grown brains in the meantime though? Because if not they will just fall for the next conman that comes along.

    (It’s a rhetorical question. We know they haven’t, and we know they will fall for this again.)

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    I still find it incomprehensible that any appreciable number of voters chose that guy, or chose him more than once

    He started off with decades of poor headlines as a grifter, narcissist, and failed developer …… did people really believe that stupid “reality” show creates to establish a new image? But then everyone saw what he did the first time around: even if your only knowledge is “reality” tv, why would you repeat that?

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    Only like 23% of the American public supported him in the first place. That’s why you have to get off your ass and vote.

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    First-generation Hispanic voters tend to be single-issue voters, so they’re easily wooed by messages like, “We hate commies!,” “Eww gays!,” “Machismo is a good thing!” and “No Abortions!” and will happily vote against their own interests on everything else.

    It also doesn’t help they tend to value education less than subsequent generations.

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    Typical genoside-party APOLOGISTS, the Atlantic.

    If they’d WANTED us to vote for Kamala, they’d have stopped ALL WARS.

    (apologies to BigMacHole)